Trying to read that makes me cross-eyed.

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 06:14:13PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:

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On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Paul Boddie paul@boddie.org.uk wrote:

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On Friday 21. April 2017 05.08.22 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:

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bit too weird, man :)

I had a bit of a sketch and came up with this:

http://www.boddie.org.uk/downloads/EOMA68/logo.svg

blegh! :) gone cross-eyed too, man!

But it is fun!

Speaking as someone who has consciously opted out of religion, has better things to do than contemplate faith, and is a self-confessed "kinda strange guy"...

That logo is more than a wee bit off kilter. The phrase I would use in polite company would probably be "remarkably doofy", because that's how I roll. But, "a bit too weird" works very well also ;) Sorry, but that one looks very much fated for a one-way ticket to /dev/null. Try, try again! (Speaking as an artist, which I am -- I throw away *tons* more than I keep. Oh -- and people tell me I'm pretty dang good. I'm not interested in arguing...)

On 4/21/17, John Luke Gibson eaterjolly@gmail.com wrote:

See, now the symbolism only looks religious if your not looking at where the symbols are taken from. The Blender logo is an eye, which is supposed to be emphasized by the switching of the eyelash in the traditional one with a different one. Inside of the fish, the eye then thusly makes the whole a fisheye. The suggestion is that we are looking at the broader picture, as would be seen with a fisheye lens.

On 4/20/17, Christopher Havel laserhawk64@gmail.com wrote:

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Speaking as someone who has consciously opted out of religion, has better things to do than contemplate faith, and is a self-confessed "kinda strange guy"...

That logo is more than a wee bit off kilter. The phrase I would use in polite company would probably be "remarkably doofy", because that's how I roll. But, "a bit too weird" works very well also ;) Sorry, but that one looks very much fated for a one-way ticket to /dev/null. Try, try again! (Speaking as an artist, which I am -- I throw away *tons* more than I keep. Oh -- and people tell me I'm pretty dang good. I'm not interested in arguing...)

If you actually think any deeper about the possible analogy to a religious fish than surface value, it doesn't make any sense as it comes from an ancient story about less becoming more simply by sharing it. This human endeavor of ours, has really nothing to do with that. Our computers won't multiply by taking existing ones from the wild, breaking them in half and giving out the halves. Besides the suggestion that the fish is for killing and then eating, offends my vegan sensibilities.

If anything, perhaps a bit of re-scaling the letters in the image and using microsoft's M (to make it less serif and thereby less gothic) instead of macintosh's (original macintosh and microsoft's M from back when windows 95 came out). As much as we involved with Gnu tend to hate those groups, they had the goal at those points in history of making a masterpiece of a computer so that the world would advance and not abandon computing as soul-less gimmick. Even if those groups are destined to dissolve, and even if they've both lasted long enough to become the villain, we owe them. I was originally going to flip the windows W upside down almost in spiteful mockery that it (modern windows) is anything but modular, but then I realized that even if we find ourselves needing to suppress the unyielding madness of these old-and-senile giants in our present, we must still honor their memory as they did accomplish something wonderful once upon a time. Even to the detractors of this assertion that might say Unix would have evolved regardless, I say nay for no person would lustfully wish to learn to build a machine that they knew not could house a part of their soul. These developers built machines with a culture behind them and did so such that the culture could house millions of individuals and with part each one's own individual spirit.

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On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 8:00 AM, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de wrote:

The EOMA logo making a statement about anything other than EOMA does not seem like a good idea to me.

no, exactly. even if it's a really obscure joke (as if triple-satire isn't obscure enough). i really *really* want to add, underneath:

"The R/Evolution Will not be Televised"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Revolution_Will_Not_Be_Televised

:)