[Arm-netbook] Status update

[Hendrik Boom]

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 11:01:25PM +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> On Monday, November 21, 2022, Paul Boddie <paul at boddie.org.uk> wrote:
> > On Monday, 21 November 2022 22:38:48 CET Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> wrote:
> >> paul, apologies, i misread. let me start again.
> >>
> >> On Monday, November 21, 2022, Paul Boddie <paul at boddie.org.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> > One is too busy and directs us to the other who is incommunicative.
> >>
> >> this is the bit that is ambiguous and caused me to misunderstand.
> >> whom is "one" and whom is "the other" when there are *three*
> >> potential parties involved?
> >
> > OK, when someone is asked by Crowd Supply to contact the creators
> directly,
> > you (as creator #1) are evidently too busy
> 
> no, this is wrong.  or, factually misleading.
> the 93 Cards are at *Think Penguin's premises*.
> 
> i have spent 18 months persistently attempting
> communication to recover those Cards.
> 
> we are WAITING for the results of TESTING of those Cards.
> 
> proceeding with the manufacture of the remaining 800 is
> a HUGE RISK without information on the state of the 93
> that are WITHELD by Chris of Think Penguin.
> 
> i am waiting JUST AS MUCH AS YOU ARE.
> 
> there is no further action i can take beyond repeating
> that the course of action is for ALL OF YOU to
> CONTACT CHRISTOPHER WAID.
> 
> 
> > and have directed us to Christopher
> > Waid (as creator #2) who is incommunicative.
> 
> i repeat.
> 
> once again.
> 
> public pressure from multiple sources and backers is
> our last best chance.
> 
> it will require multiple people, systematically, and
> it will require those people to put the resultant
> conversations onto publicly-accessible Social Media,
> especially forums where Thinkpenguin customers are
> likely to be present in some numbers.
> 
> this type of action will cause Chris to lose business if
> he does not respond to paying customers, which should
> be sufficient to finally get him to respond.
> 
> it is uncomfortable, but tough: i cannot protect him any
> longer from the consequences of his failure to communicate.
> 
> 
> > Personally, I find it all a bit perplexing. Although I know that you
> brought
> > Mr Waid into the effort with there apparently being some particular
> interest
> > from him in the laptop, I would imagine that most people following this
> > project would have expected you to bring the effort to completion
> yourself:
> 
> fuck no, you must be absolutely kidding. you cannot possibly be serious.
> 
> if you genuinely believe that then you cannot possibly have
> been reading the updates where i specifically request assistance
> and remind everyone systematically that this is and always
> has been a COMMUNITY project where it lives and dies on what
> people help out with.
> 
> examples include writing documentation, wiki pages, developing
> linux kernel support, u-boot patches and getting OS Support
> up and running.  none of which i can possibly be expected to
> handle alone.
> 
> i also go to some lengths to repeatedly state that as a
> Certification Mark Holder i am NOT PERMITTED TO SELL PRODUCT
> because it is a Conflict of Interest with the role and
> responsibility of a Certification Mark Holder.
> 
> once again, from the top:
> 
> it places the ENTIRE PROJECT AT RISK to proceed with the
> manufacture of the remaining Cards without first testing
> the 93 that are being witheld by Chrstopher Waid at his
> business premises.
> 
> Mike needs to know if the yield was 95% or if it was 5%.
> 
> we have no idea.
> 
> 91 of those Cards could be FAULTY and CHRIS HAS NOT TOLD US
> 
> without knowing what the fault might be, Mike is risking
> proceeding to manufacture A THOUSAND FAULTY UNRECOVERABLE CARDS
> 
> at which point this project will have no other choice but
> to be declared terminated.
> 
> so will you please
> 
> will you please
> 
> for god's sake
> 
> stop arguing
> 
> stop speculating
> 
> and please
> 
> please
> 
> LISTEN
> 
> and HELP
> 
> by CONTACTING CHRISTOPHER WAID
> 
> to ask him very simply: "where are the 93 Cards"
> 
> so that we can send a Courier round to recover them, get them
> to Portland, so that Joshua can test them.
> 
> l.
> 

This whole conversation is making me wonder if Chris is still alive.

-- hendrik

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