[Arm-netbook] riki200 v3 first print: success
Philip Hands
phil at hands.com
Wed Sep 20 09:12:34 BST 2017
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl at lkcl.net> writes:
> ---
> crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Elena ``of Valhalla''
> <valhalla-l at trueelena.org> wrote:
>> On 2017-09-18 at 07:07:04 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>>> the entire arduino software ecosystem was never designed to actually
>>> give people proper access to the hardware. anything that's a 180mb
>>> download and requires a 200mb runtime environment to compile and
>>> upload an executable that's only 16k in size *really* isn't going to
>>> end well.
>>
>> Well, IIRC they do bundle gcc(-avr), which tends to be quite big, but
>> doesn't really need to be downloaded again if you already have it from
>> your distribution, and the runtime environment is only needed if you
>> want to use their IDE instead of your favourite editor + a Makefile (and
>> there is (was?) at least one example Makefile somewhere in the arduino
>> package).
>
> yehyeh... it wasn't always like that.
>
>> Looking at the installed sizes on debian (which has an older version for
>> license reasons) I see that the libraries are about 6½MB and the IDE
>> itself is just 1½MB.
>
> phil was instrumental in arranging that.
>
>> https://packages.debian.org/sid/arduino-core
>> https://packages.debian.org/sid/arduino
>
> yep he recommended to the arduino package maintainer that the actual
> core parts not be glommed together with a runtime and IDE and
> everything else.
Well, I reacted badly to the Java UI (because it was ludicrously broken
under tiling window managers -- the menu required you to click the
screen elsewhere to get anywhere, and my screen wasn't wide enough to
click anything on the sub-menus ;-) ), and noticed that it was actually
possible to use a Makefile, and that there were several Makefiles in
circulation, so chose what looked to be the most maintained one, and
suggested that the author pick up the nice features in the other ones,
and then stuck that together as the arduino-core package.
Then we worked out how to make the arduino package play nicely with
that, in order to remove the duplication, so ironically I'm now an
uploader on both, including the Java bits, despite the fact that my only
motivation at the start was driven by my aversion to Java.
As it happens, I fired up my arduino for the first time since doing the
arduino-core uploads last week -- My 5 year old daughter and I are
knocking up something to drive some LEDs and a motor in order to make
her IKEA kitchen have a working turntable in the microwave, and a blue
LED to simulate water coming out of the tap, etc.
I was actually using the IDE for that (which now works with Xmonad) just
for expediency, but this reminds me that I should use it as an excuse to
make sure that arduino-core still works.
> http://reprap.org/wiki/RD3D/1.0
Cool :-)
BTW you called it 'R3D3' in the penultimate paragraph.
Cheers, Phil.
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