[Arm-netbook] firefly 3399 all source software disclosed?
Allan Mwenda
allanitomwesh at gmail.com
Wed May 10 08:04:49 BST 2017
Hi Luke
On the topic of GPU's have you seen this?
https://github.com/etnaviv/etna_viv
Seems to be a libre driver for Vivante GPU's
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:26 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl at lkcl.net>
wrote:
> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:13 PM, <ronwirring at safe-mail.net> wrote:
>
> > How can you make an arm gpu for 150000usd?
>
> you don't. ARM is a registered trademark, and copying what they're
> doing is asking for trouble.
>
> instead you take one of the "open gpus" or parts of them and use that.
> there's several i've been tracking: MIAOW, Nyuzi, the ORSOC graphics
> accelerator - there's surprisingly quite a lot out there.
>
> > How would you use it?
>
> it would be on the same silicon, on the same memory bus as the RISC-V
> 64-bit core. anything else is too power-hungry.
>
> > Would you put it additionally on a bord and not use the gpu located on
> the processor socket?
>
> no.
>
> > If you reverse engineer the latest mali gpu, what you hold against it
> is, that when next version of an arm socket is for sale it will have a new
> mali gpu and require a new reverse engineering?
>
> correct. so whatever you get it's guaranteed to be "old". this is
> the sad fact of reverse-engineering: all that effort, with *no
> guarantee of success*.... just to get something that's years
> out-of-date.
>
>
> > Lets say 50000 people would buy the filrefly rk3399. Same people would
> pay 3eu each for reverse engineering the gpu. Then we would have a source
> code arm computer?
>
> no. ARM has acted so unethically in slandering luc verhaegen and
> blackmailing companies that pay him that i am not interested in
> supporting their business any more than is absolutely necessary.
>
> > It takes a lot of coordination to provide gnulinux distributions I
> assume.
>
> yes. a _lot_. however amazingly people are actually doing just
> that... even on risc-v where there isn't yet even any actual hardware.
>
> > It is unfortunate people are not able to coordinate such that we can get
> source code hardware.
>
> it's still quite a young area of focus.
>
> l.
>
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