[Arm-netbook] Fwd: [trinity-devel] TDE Fundraiser

[Hendrik Boom]

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 10:48:56PM -0400, David Niklas wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 21:30:51 -0400
> Hendrik Boom <hendrik at topoi.pooq.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 10:27:47PM -0400, David Niklas wrote:
> > > On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 22:50:20 +0100
> > > Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl at lkcl.net> wrote:  
> > > > On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 10:42 PM, Bill Kontos <vkontogpls at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >   
> > > > > On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 12:22 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> > > > > <lkcl at lkcl.net    
> > > > >> wrote:    
> > > > >    
> > > <snip>  
> > > > > Is there any specific reasons as to why this is better ?    
> > > > 
> > > > They're not based on gnome (which in turn is based on GTK).  that
> > > > alone is good enough reason.  
> > > 
> > > And GTK is bad because?
> > > If I were to write a graphical app in C wouldn't I *have* to use
> > > GTK?  
> > 
> > No.  GTK is the Gimp toolkit, originally written for the GNU image
> > manipulation program.
> > 
> > It uses (presumably) the X toolkit (I don't kow its name), which is the 
> > low-level interface to sending and receiving the network packets for
> > the X protocol with the ICCC -- the inter-client communications
> > conventions, which goern communicataions with a window manager.  (I
> > don't know how much of this is now obsolete i ws using X in the 80's,
> > and I gather it at least hs remained more or less compatible; there's a
> > lot less flexibility in X nowadays, as far as I cana tell)
> >
> > There's no reason other systems shouldn't be built directly on the X
> > toolkit.
> 
> I've read that it's old, difficult to port programs/to/from other OSes
> or X to wayland, and outdated. Thus, I read from others that my choices
> are QT, GTK, the out dated and ugly Tk or the very rare, yet pretty Fox.

There's FLTK, too.

> 
> > Qt, is presumably another such system.
> > 
> > And the problems with GTK is that the developers have mpved on to
> > another major release that, I'm told, isn't very compatible and old
> > code is dying. It's another of the systems that have been forked.  I
> > don't know how well the old release is being maintained.
> > 
> > -- hendrik
> > 
> Isn't that what will happen with X as soon as people get fanatical about
> wayland like they have done with systemd?

X has already been forked.  That's why we now have xorg instead of xfree.

-- hendrik