[Arm-netbook] Logos

[John Luke Gibson]

Hence why I agree entirely: the word libre should not be in the logo.

This shouldn't stop us from making subtle hints to the fact it is
something of a community that believes libre should be universal,
inside the logo.

On 1/27/17, Allan Mwenda <allanitomwesh at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, the EOMA68-A20 is only fully libre in the libre tea card version.
> Now that I think further into it, are the standard/hardware designs some
> sort of copyleft to compell third parties to also share their card designs
> back?
> Anyway, it is very likely that if someone else picks this up, who isn't as
> diligent as Luke, they will make a not so libre card and try passing it off
> as libre using the logo (if it says so in the eoma logo, and the card passes
> eoma certification) FSFs definition is the strictest and the RYF
> certification is already worth its weight, in that, if you can convince FSF
> something is libre, there's very little chance it isn't. A good example is
> the Librem 13 laptop, which was initially marketed as libre ( but wasn't
> even close) which breezed it through funding and is now marketed as "privacy
>  respecting" after failing RYF.
>
>
> On January 27, 2017 12:39:46 PM GMT+03:00, John Luke Gibson
> <eaterjolly at gmail.com> wrote:
>>There are two ways to interprete that bear in mind.
>>We probably want the logo to contain libre (or references/parts
>>thereof), but you would be right to say we probably don't want libre
>>itself in the logo.
>>
>>We don't want to hinge too much on the fact we promote libre, because
>>optimally libre would be ~~assumed~~ in all things computer. We don't
>>want to set the theme that it should be a buzz word, however it should
>>represent a standard of the way things simply should be.
>>
>>That being said, while we don't want libre to symbolize eoma, we still
>>want eoma to symbolize libre and we still want a logo which reminds
>>people of that and allows the one's who care to take solace in the
>>presence of our logo. Don't forget!
>>
>>On 1/27/17, Allan Mwenda <allanitomwesh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Definitely no cats too.
>>> I think the caps font used in the logo example previously is great.
>>> Adding to that, I think we should not put libre in the logo. If
>>someone
>>> wants that let them sweat extra for RYF certification.
>>>
>>>
>>> On January 26, 2017 10:04:56 AM GMT+03:00, John Luke Gibson
>>> <eaterjolly at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>I would highly recommend avoiding any logos, without proper
>>historical
>>>>reference. One of the problems with traditional Linux icons, are that
>>>>they are very un-iconic. It's better to be textually based, in my
>>>>opinion, than to use disorienting imagery. At this point, most of the
>>>>clay has already set so referencing/alluding-to other gnu projects
>>>>[such as blender] wouldn't be detrimental, however ascii has a very
>>>>richer history of use by "hacktivists".
>>>>
>>>>Referencing some historically relevant (to "hacktivism") ascii
>>>>iconography either overtly or subtly, kindof more or less as a hat
>>tip
>>>>to communities which support said historical events will cause the
>>>>logo a greater likelihood of being regarded as iconic. I wish I had
>>>>specific examples, but possibly using cloister black font would be a
>>>>subtle hat tip to anonymous for some individuals use of various
>>>>letters in that font as copy-cat of L from Death Note.
>>>>
>>>>Another thing of note, would be that we need to be careful who we tip
>>>>our hats to, to be careful of who in the future people might assume
>>us
>>>>to endorse. A font is innocuous enough, that it can be adapted later
>>>>due to circumstance (should a need arise to disassociate) without
>>>>damaging the recognize-ability of any logo.
>>>>
>>>>The universal and modular style of blender, is a good point to mimic.
>>>>A solid dot in the center of the "O" would probably be a subtle
>>enough
>>>>correlation to the blender logo.
>>>>
>>>>This is the pattern of thinking we need in developing logos and
>>>>"slogans".
>>>>
>>>>Thinking about what sounds catchy only correlates us with random
>>>>corporate culture. We don't need to be entirely original as we have a
>>>>history to fall back on. However originality might also help
>>>>distinguish us from our predecessors, the last thing we want is to
>>>>fail to distinguish ourselves from your neighborhood corporation.
>>>>
>>>>I would recommend Luke to contact Wenqing Yang a.k.a. "Yummei", using
>>>>the notability of the project to attract their attention. I would
>>like
>>>>to point out that despite being a cultural figure (famous artist) in
>>>>the hacktivist community they previously lauched a multi-million
>>>>dollar successful indiegogo which caused them much heart ache (per
>>>>their blog) over legal controversy with so-called partners and their
>>>>personal admonishment that they failed to do enough.
>>>>
>>>>>From: Alexander Ross <maillist_arm-netbook at aross.me>
>>>>>To: Linux on small ARM machines <arm-netbook at lists.phcomp.co.uk>
>>>>>Cc:
>>>>>Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 16:07:15 +0000
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] Logos
>>>>>this all these efforts, got me to have a play around too. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> i was started having a go at one idea of letters inserting into
>>each
>>>>> other kinda like a module.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had put E and O in side the M. it then kinda looked like/spelled
>>>>Meoo
>>>>> like a cat.
>>>>> So what about a darn cat logo? maybe a cat playing with a eoma68
>>card
>>>>in
>>>>> its paws?
>>>>>
>>>>> sry for the yet another internet cat image type of suggestion,
>>never
>>>>> thought id be making one heh.
>>>>
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