[Arm-netbook] Logging and journaling

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 04:45:07PM +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir at cohens.org.il> wrote:
>
> > That is: you don't like systemd? fine. Installing Debian without it is
> > rather simple:
> > https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Installing_without_systemd
> 
>  does it include removal of libsystemd0?  (it doesn't).  it's not as
> straightforward as it's made out to be, tzafrir.

Neither it include the removal of libselinux. I am yet to hear proper
technical arguments why this library should be removed.

> 
> > In that case, all I'll have to do would be to install a few more
> > packages (and maybe disable syslog logging to reduce unnecessary disk
> > writes, and similar tweaks).
> 
>  i'm considering one of two options:
> 
>  (1) providing the image (a snapshot of debian/testing from before
> jessie) i've been working with for a couple of years, now, as-is.  if
> people want to upgrade, they just do "apt-get dist-upgrade" and they
> get systemd and everything else.

I would rather start with a fresh install of Debian than this.

> 
>  (2) putting on angband.pl's nosystemd repositories.  this is "hard
> work" for me to both set up, and for others to remove (revert) just as
> you say, so i am unlikely to do it... but it's an option.

I would rather start with a fresh install of Debian than this.

Neither of those options is a properly supported Debian system. This is
not what I meant when I opted for Debian as the OS (IIRC this was also the
most common option among others). I guess some of us will need to
provide an alternative image of Debian with instructions on how to
install it.

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