[Arm-netbook] microdesktop casework as DXF files for laser-cutting

[zap]

On 04/02/2017 05:51 PM, zap wrote:
>
> On 04/02/2017 04:55 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Normand Chamberland <gemnoc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 2017-03-31 5:47 GMT-04:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl at lkcl.net>:
>>>>  normand, can you please not use non-free proprietary git services for
>>>> this project, it sends completely the wrong message.  please delete
>>>> that github repository immediately, it brings the EOMA68 project's
>>>> reputation into disrepute and that's completely unacceptable.
>>> FYI My repo had a README file for which content specifically said
>>>
>>>> This repository hosts my personal design files for the EOMA68 project.
>>>> This is not the official project repository.
>>> I fail to see how they could bring "disrepute" to it.since these files were
>>> clearly *PERSONAL* and *NON-ASSOCIATED TO THE OFFICIAL PROJECT*.
>> norman, i haven't checked if you're still subscribed to the list, but
>> if you'd not published that link to the list, and had only discussed
>> it in private email directly with other people, i would not have known
>> and, on a random-chance discovery six to twelve months from now would
>> probably have grumbled a bit, privately, but would have gone,
>> "rhhm.... ok nothing to stress about, no impact on the reputation of
>> the project, time to move along switfly".
>>
>>  fact is: we have something like 50% of the 2,500 backers supporting
>> this project because they believe in libre ethics, and i am also
>> answerable to the FSF for the RYF Certification (josh gay explained it
>> to me that RYF Certification effectively means placing responsibility
>> for the FSF's reputation into the hands of other people, which is not
>> something they do lightly).
>>
>>  in the next update i was going to say, "here you can see where the
>> files are being developed, normand has been kindly assisting, you can
>> help him out as well if you like, by joining the list, he's operating
>> from a libre-hosted repository, thus demonstrating a continued
>> committment to the principles that you backed the project for with
>> your money".
>>
>>  now, if any one of those libre backers had noticed it was a github
>> repository, far from wishing to actively pitch in they would instead
>> be sending me (or worse PUBLICLY writing) strongly-worded enquiries
>> asking, in effect, "what the FUCK do you think you're playing at,
>> lkcl?? i thought this was an entirely libre-based project, and here
>> you are advocating the use of github which has an F on the GNU
>> project's hosting watchlist??  i gave you my money because i believed
>> in you, now you've completely destroyed my trust in you and that can
>> never be restored or regained"
>>
>>  this is the sort of thing i'm up against.  it has fuck-all to do with
>> "zeal".  i *made a promise* to people, they believe in me, and i
>> simply cannot let them down else absolutely nobody will trust me ever
>> again.  the internet is *forever*. they'll see the (hypothetical)
>> conversation in internet archives - forever - and the entirety of the
>> last 6 years of work will have been for nothing.
>>
>> so please, people, for goodness sake: if you need to host any files
>> please don't use github or any cloud services: it's me (and the
>> project) that get into deep shit, not you.  i've got full control over
>> a server which i've been running for 10 years, it has 4
>> separately-allocated static IP addresses, and i have two friends who
>> also run servers, both of whom make their living from software libre
>> support.  we *really* don't need to use proprietary non-free services.
>> if you'd like to host files or repositories send me an ssh key and i
>> can sort something out.
>>
>> thanks for understanding.

The below still applies but,
> I agree with your view point, github is not trustworthy. heck, gitlab
> which is a few steps better is still crap.
>
> I am not sure about gogs though...
>
> https://gogs.io/
>
> I am really though glad you take this sort of thing seriously. We should
> all thank you for such zeal towards keeping things "Libre"
>
> I hope you are successful Luke. And really, if normand sees this post, I
> hope he has a better understanding of the consequences of such actions.
>
> Anyways though, I look forward to when you get the rockchip processor
> working to your specifications.
>
> One last thing though, you said the a20 doesn't support 4.9 kernel...
> but what about the rk3288 processor?
as far as I can see, the rk3288 from this page does support 4.9...

https://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort

heh. The rest of my message still applies though.



>> l.
>>
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