[Arm-netbook] H2020 EU Funding

Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl at lkcl.net
Wed Apr 29 15:08:36 BST 2015

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Hrvoje Lasic <lasich at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Luke,
> Maybe best would be to have a Skype some time so I can tell you what I know
> but let me tell you few things.
> ICT  - if possible avoid it. For example in first round there was more then
> 800 applications and only small number is funded. This is why we didn't get
> funds even if we had score above threshold. There is always someone with
> better score and I think only 10 or 20 projects are funded in each call. For
> example in low carbon there was about 50 applications in total and now you
> understand why you should avoid ICT. it is just too crowded.

 ok.  done :)

> low carbon - I think you have to talk to someone that is familiar with this
> but I am not sure if you can make your case for low carbon. I think they
> think about products which contribute actively to reducing carbon footprint
> like more efficient technologies in heating, cooling or industry etc. But I
> say you should try to push it here because you can always push in in ICT but
> this is too crowded call. Now you understand the logic, try to find business
> case for you that is not ICT within H2020. For example you said that you
> solution can be good for education as it drastically reducing cost of
> computers. Is there any call mentioning education etc...

 i'll take a look

> I think you cant write application yourself as you are not good in all
> aspects that are important for application to be successful. Not only you
> have to be good in areas where you are expected to be good (like technology,
> business model, competitions etc) but also in areas which are difficult to
> understand from your point of view like EU policies etc...
> Evaluator that you know certainly can help as they know those things but you
> need someone who can work on your project with you. Actually I signed a
> contract with one UK agency doing this but there are others. I will send you
> later more info on project we do so you cna pick up something that we can
> participate. One more important thing. You are expected to have 30% of your
> funds and this 30% can be salaries and other cost that are justified but it
> means you need some strong partners to absorb lot of funds if you don't have
> enough expenses. Phase1 is not a problem 950k Euro) but phase 2 where you
> can ask 0.5 to 2.5 mill Euro can be.

 interesting.  ok.

> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> <lkcl at lkcl.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Hrvoje Lasic <lasich at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > What will be idea?
>>  i think this one would be very effective:
>> http://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/portal/desktop/en/opportunities/h2020/topics/2566-sie-01-2015.html
>>  as would this one:
>> http://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/portal/desktop/en/opportunities/h2020/topics/2565-ict-37-2015.html
>> > Do you go to phase 1 or  2?
>>  well, i'd like to go straight to phase 2, because we have actual
>> products nearing completion: it's not actually "theoretical", it's
>> real.
>>  however....
>> > You need actual partners for phase2. For phase 1 you can have only
>> > letter of
>> > intent or mention it in project. Phase 2 you have little chances w/o
>> > phase 1
>> > won (in theory you do but in real life no).
>>  .... if you've actually had experience with this then i'm happy to
>> learn from that.
>> > We applied 3 times and didn't won, but came very close and last
>> > application
>> > have been above threshold but we still have to improve in some areas. I
>> > can
>> > give you some general advices or you can do it via good consultant also.
>> > Maybe we can even participate if there is something we can do.
>>  that would be very good.
>>  this project, i mean - it's not "theoretical", at all.  for the
>> energy-efficiency and carbon reduction programme, this project
>> *clearly* qualifies: it's *designed* to reduce e-waste and carbon
>> emissions.  i'm designing products where the casework is made of
>> bamboo, for goodness sake!  and the plastics i'm looking at hemp fibre
>> reinforced PLA (which is incredibly strong btw).
>>  on the other programme, it's guaranteed to be disruptive: it's
>> turning the entire product development cycle - from design to
>> ownership - completely sideways.  i don't describe the project as a
>> paradigm shift in computing without good reason.
>>  so there's actual *genuine* justification as to why this project
>> would succeed in an application under either of those to programmes.
>> which helps enormously when writing because it means that there's
>> something to believe in, strongly, rather than just "hope it might
>> work".
>>  so, hrvoje: what do you have that you could be part of a
>> participation effort?  what do you do - remind me :)
>>  btw, we have a secret weapon: i know someone who actually
>> participated in the review of EU funding applications, so has seen
>> this from the other side: i've invited him to help out, let's see what
>> he says.
>> l.
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