[Arm-netbook] policy for wiki and mailing list

[João Pinto]

2012/5/19 lkcl luke <luke.leighton at gmail.com>

> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 9:14 AM, João Pinto <lamego.pinto at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > can someone point me «in private» to a ML with people with the
> > same technical goals from this one but where a Free «as in speech»
> > participation is allowed ?
>
>  joao, the concept of "free speech" is a myth.   do you get onto the
> Linux Kernel Mailing List and expect to be tolerated for talking about
> chickens and race cars?
>
>  this is about goals - about shared goals.  you are entirely *free* to
> set up a mailing list with different goals from the ones that i have
> set for this project.
>
>  from 2004 to 2006 i had the shared goal of reverse-engineering HTC
> smartphones, with people like cr2 who is still associated with the
> #htc-linux project.  we operated *without* having a mailing list - IRC
> and a wiki only (and a source code repository and a place to upload
> files).  it worked very very well.
>
>  this project is about to get very very busy (i will be in a position
> to make announcements and give more details in a few weeks), and i'd
> like it to be on a sound footing by then.
>
> l.
>
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I am sorry, we clearly have a fundamental difference of understanding for
"free speech", I take it as a real freedom, while you take it as a myth.
I have no interest in starting am ideological debate here, I am sure we are
both right in own culture and experiences, it is your project, you are the
ML owner, as as a guest I fully respect your authority to defined the
communication rules.

Linux being of the most notable Free Software projects does not represent
that it's mailing lists, it's people or it's processes are all great
examples of free speech, and even if it did, your example about being
off-topic in an on-topic ML again is a demonstration that we don't share a
common understanding about "free speech". I see your reference to Linux
Kernel in what relates to it's ability to achieve goals.

I understand your focus on goals, I appreciate your work, I hope you and
all the people around the project succeed, but I also have a great care
about the methods. I am just a curious watcher about this project, I have
silently read the ML for the last couple of weeks and there has been a
couple of times which I have noted some methods of enforcing rules which I
personally do not appreciate. Again I am not judging you, I am just
explaining my motivation to seek an alternative with similar goals but with
methods which are closer to my personal opinion about communication and
collaboration.

Thanks for your feedback

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João Pinto
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