-------- Original Message -------- From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl@lkcl.net Apparently from: arm-netbook-bounces@lists.phcomp.co.uk To: Eco-Conscious Computing arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] pyra computer Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 23:09:31 +0000
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:38 PM, ronwirring@safe-mail.net wrote:
they didn't like the modular concept :) they also really didn't like the standard.
plus, the form-factor is a bit small to fit a 5x54x90 card and associated socket.
About the pyra's computer devices, do we know how well suited they are to get connected to an eoma pc card? My thought was to have a modified part of the pyra's cabinet to enable inserting an eoma pc card.
ron can i ask you the favour of not referring to me in the 3rd person? i'm right here!!!
If I write: Lkcl, can you ... Then I want you to answer. If I write: Can lkcl ... Then all on the email list may answer.
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ron can i ask you the favour of not referring to me in the 3rd person? i'm right here!!!
If I write: Lkcl, can you ... Then I want you to answer. If I write: Can lkcl ... Then all on the email list may answer.
Not that talking in third person isn't amusing to me, but Luke doesn't seem to like it.
Probably not a good idea to piss him off......
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On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 5:28 PM, ronwirring@safe-mail.net wrote:
If I write: Lkcl, can you ... Then I want you to answer. If I write: Can lkcl ... Then all on the email list may answer.
the list's name is "arm-netbooks", best to refer to everyone on it by that, rather than confuse the use of my personal initials of my personal name?
l.
On 2/5/18, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl@lkcl.net wrote:
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 5:28 PM, ronwirring@safe-mail.net wrote:
If I write: Lkcl, can you ... Then I want you to answer. If I write: Can lkcl ... Then all on the email list may answer.
the list's name is "arm-netbooks", best to refer to everyone on it by that, rather than confuse the use of my personal initials of my personal name?
l.
A lead participating in community as a regular member, is important. This is difficult task not many will understand the value of, much less appreciate.
If we don't address Luke directly, we depreciate a great deal of energy. Exaggerating what many could answer, deprives meaning from those few or the only one who can answer rigorously accurate.
Transparency requires tinted windows. Openness requires passionate effort.
On Tuesday, February 6, 2018, Jean Flamelle eaterjolly@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/5/18, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl@lkcl.net wrote:
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 5:28 PM, ronwirring@safe-mail.net wrote:
If I write: Lkcl, can you ... Then I want you to answer. If I write: Can lkcl ... Then all on the email list may answer.
the list's name is "arm-netbooks", best to refer to everyone on it by that, rather than confuse the use of my personal initials of my personal name?
l.
A lead participating in community as a regular member, is important.
indeed. and using the personal initials of the lead developer (me) to refer to the members, over whom i have absolutely no authority or control exvept as the dual role / capacity of list moderator, particularly when there already exists a unique and separate and distinct naming convention ("members of arm-netbooks") is massively confusing and thus is inappropriate.
reminder ron: i set the rules here, you do not. that is my role as lead, and you are free to ignore those rules if you are also happy to accept the consequence that i am free to put you into moderation mode (again).
This is difficult task not many will understand the value of, much
less appreciate.
If we don't address Luke directly, we depreciate a great deal of energy. Exaggerating what many could answer, deprives meaning from those few or the only one who can answer rigorously accurate.
confusion by not following normal conventions, by inventing new ones that nobody was consulted about, places a burden on absolutely everybody to work out what the hell is going on.
Transparency requires tinted windows. Openness requires passionate effort.
funny. nice analogy and also true.
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On 2/6/18, Jean Flamelle eaterjolly@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/5/18, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl@lkcl.net wrote:
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 5:28 PM, ronwirring@safe-mail.net wrote:
If I write: Lkcl, can you ... Then I want you to answer. If I write: Can lkcl ... Then all on the email list may answer.
the list's name is "arm-netbooks", best to refer to everyone on it by that, rather than confuse the use of my personal initials of my personal name?
l.
A lead participating in community as a regular member, is important. This is difficult task not many will understand the value of, much less appreciate.
If we don't address Luke directly, we depreciate a great deal of energy. Exaggerating what many could answer, deprives meaning from those few or the only one who can answer rigorously accurate.
Transparency requires tinted windows. Openness requires passionate effort.
On 2/11/18, Pičugins Arsenijs crimier@yandex.ru wrote:
Lkcl, is my phrasing that annoying or offensive or confusing to you that you believe it is fine to ask me to limit my free speech? Make your argument.
People assuming a right to free speech is so perochial, it's just cute.
Free speech is nothing that you get to demand when you are asking to have your email forwarded by a privately owned server located outside the USA.
I don't think he's referring to the USA First Amendment rights. I also believe that instantly associating the "free speech" mentions to a USA law is unnecessarily limiting the conversation. I think he's referring to the concept of "freedom of speech and expression", which is a concept people have been using for a long time, both in our benefit and to our peril, and which has influenced the laws in many countries, not just USA.
Cheers! Arsenijs
We are forgetting the underlining point and letting this get political.
All in all the point is that it was "RUDE"!
This has nothing to do with free speech and only to do with Common Courtesy.
If someone is going to great lengths to participate in a conversation, atleast recognize that they are in the metaphorical room. Gosh...
On 18.2.5 11:53, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 5:28 PM, ronwirring@safe-mail.net wrote:
If I write: Lkcl, can you ... Then I want you to answer. If I write: Can lkcl ... Then all on the email list may answer.
the list's name is "arm-netbooks", best to refer to everyone on it by that, rather than confuse the use of my personal initials of my personal name?
l.
May-be if Ron says <Can lkcl do something>, he means to ask Luke OR ANY MEMBER, to give an opinion as to whether Luke's ability or time or opportunity, means that Luke can do that something. If some one means to convey THAT, I have not noticed any one here suggest better wording than Ron's wording. But it seems that persons needed Ron to be more --verbose. :^) Ron, if this is the meaning, then please confirm. And then may-be, persons will react as desired, to future uses of such wording.
May-be if Ron says <Can lkcl do something>, he means to ask Luke OR ANY MEMBER, to give an opinion as to whether Luke's ability or time or opportunity, means that Luke can do that something. If some one means to convey THAT, I have not noticed any one here suggest better wording than Ron's wording. But it seems that persons needed Ron to be more --verbose. :^) Ron, if this is the meaning, then please confirm. And then may-be, persons will react as desired, to future uses of such wording.
Just my two cents, but this has gotten WAY off topic... amusing as that is for me, its not the purpose of this mailing list... and I don't think it is very helpful.
So yeah, what is the pyra computer again?
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On 02/06/18 17:01, zap wrote:
May-be if Ron says <Can lkcl do something>, he means to ask Luke OR ANY MEMBER, to give an opinion as to whether Luke's ability or time or opportunity, means that Luke can do that something. If some one means to convey THAT, I have not noticed any one here suggest better wording than Ron's wording. But it seems that persons needed Ron to be more --verbose. :^) Ron, if this is the meaning, then please confirm. And then may-be, persons will react as desired, to future uses of such wording.
Just my two cents, but this has gotten WAY off topic... amusing as that is for me, its not the purpose of this mailing list... and I don't think it is very helpful.
So yeah, what is the pyra computer again?
ps, I know I am guilty of this too, But yeah, I just felt the need to point this out because its happened many times.
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On 02/06/2018 12:01 PM, zap wrote:
May-be if Ron says <Can lkcl do something>, he means to ask Luke OR ANY MEMBER, to give an opinion as to whether Luke's ability or time or opportunity, means that Luke can do that something. If some one means to convey THAT, I have not noticed any one here suggest better wording than Ron's wording. But it seems that persons needed Ron to be more --verbose. :^) Ron, if this is the meaning, then please confirm. And then may-be, persons will react as desired, to future uses of such wording.
Just my two cents, but this has gotten WAY off topic...
snip...
Since I'm replying, I can see that the wording "Does anyone know if Luke has..." seems more polite and proper is the scheme of things than "Has Luke..."
So yeah, what is the pyra computer again?
5" mini laptop/game console, very open as such things go: https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pages/pyra/
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On 02/06/18 17:15, Tor, the Marqueteur wrote:
On 02/06/2018 12:01 PM, zap wrote:
May-be if Ron says <Can lkcl do something>, he means to ask Luke OR ANY MEMBER, to give an opinion as to whether Luke's ability or time or opportunity, means that Luke can do that something. If some one means to convey THAT, I have not noticed any one here suggest better wording than Ron's wording. But it seems that persons needed Ron to be more --verbose. :^) Ron, if this is the meaning, then please confirm. And then may-be, persons will react as desired, to future uses of such wording.
Just my two cents, but this has gotten WAY off topic...
snip...
Since I'm replying, I can see that the wording "Does anyone know if Luke has..." seems more polite and proper is the scheme of things than "Has Luke..."
So yeah, what is the pyra computer again?
5" mini laptop/game console, very open as such things go: https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pages/pyra/
Interesting... I see, it looks like a very small laptop kind of like the size of a nintendo ds...
all though it has more options, buttons to press, and of course no crapware/proprietary crap.
Still, impressive... I hope they pick a processor that isn't vulnerable to spectre and meltdown. xD
On Wednesday, February 7, 2018, zap crap.
Still, impressive... I hope they pick a processor that isn't vulnerable to spectre and meltdown. xD
cortex a15 dual. probably omap5. baby version is a7. probably isnt but goodvidea to check. modukar design so can replace.
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On Tue, 06 Feb 2018, zap calmstorm@posteo.de wrote:
On 02/06/18 17:15, Tor, the Marqueteur wrote:
On 02/06/2018 12:01 PM, zap wrote:
May-be if Ron says <Can lkcl do something>, he means to ask Luke OR ANY MEMBER, to give an opinion as to whether Luke's ability or time or opportunity, means that Luke can do that something. If some one means to convey THAT, I have not noticed any one here suggest better wording than Ron's wording. But it seems that persons needed Ron to be more --verbose. :^) Ron, if this is the meaning, then please confirm. And then may-be, persons will react as desired, to future uses of such wording.
Just my two cents, but this has gotten WAY off topic...
snip...
Since I'm replying, I can see that the wording "Does anyone know if Luke has..." seems more polite and proper is the scheme of things than "Has Luke..."
So yeah, what is the pyra computer again?
5" mini laptop/game console, very open as such things go: https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pages/pyra/
Interesting... I see, it looks like a very small laptop kind of like the size of a nintendo ds...
all though it has more options, buttons to press, and of course no crapware/proprietary crap.
Also, ludicrous attention to detail -- the previous incarnation took at least an extra 6 months because they didn't like the feel of the gaming nubs and/or their robustness so went through _many_ test versions and suppliers IIRC.
If you want an open gaming platform that will survive several generations, this is probably it.
(BTW I have no affiliation, and don't even own one as I'm not really into games, but if my kids want such a thing they'll be getting these rather than nintendos).
Cheers, Phil.
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