On the laptops lcd touch pad. Here’s a idea for a feature.
When leaning new keyboard layout. Say dovrak for example. The trouble is learning where the new keys are. For me at least, one could do with a constant reminder.
What if the lcd touch pad displayed the current pressed keys? Maybe on a image of the keyboard, meaning some way of representing where the key you pressed is relative to other keys.
So if its the wrong one you can see where the right one is. This info is only displayed while the keyboard is in use. When the touch pad is in use it switches to a relevant display for touch pad use.
As for when the user is using not the touch pad nor the keyboard? What then? display keymap? If playing video display: video controls, time left, is internet speed fast enough for this stream? etc.
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:56 AM, Alexander Ross maillist_arm-netbook@aross.me wrote:
On the laptops lcd touch pad. Here’s a idea for a feature.
What if the lcd touch pad displayed the current pressed keys? Maybe on a image of the keyboard, meaning some way of representing where the key you pressed is relative to other keys.
As for when the user is using not the touch pad nor the keyboard? What then? display keymap? If playing video display: video controls, time left, is internet speed fast enough for this stream? etc.
yeah. fantastic stuff. all these ideas and more are possible, and guess what? users will be free to write them as they'll have control over their own hardware.
l.
People use dovrak? ;) This is a nice idea, but wait, the laptop has an LCD touchpad? *runs to reinspect specs*
On January 27, 2017 7:56:27 AM GMT+03:00, Alexander Ross maillist_arm-netbook@aross.me wrote:
On the laptops lcd touch pad. Here’s a idea for a feature.
When leaning new keyboard layout. Say dovrak for example. The trouble is learning where the new keys are. For me at least, one could do with a constant reminder.
What if the lcd touch pad displayed the current pressed keys? Maybe on a image of the keyboard, meaning some way of representing where the key you pressed is relative to other keys.
So if its the wrong one you can see where the right one is. This info is only displayed while the keyboard is in use. When the touch pad is in use it switches to a relevant display for touch pad use.
As for when the user is using not the touch pad nor the keyboard? What then? display keymap? If playing video display: video controls, time left, is internet speed fast enough for this stream? etc.
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On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 5:53 AM, Allan Mwenda allanitomwesh@gmail.com wrote:
People use dovrak? ;) This is a nice idea, but wait, the laptop has an LCD touchpad? *runs to reinspect specs*
3.5in instead of a trackpad. getting hold of trackpads with buttons is a total bitch. i tried looking, about ten to fifteen times. give it a shot, yourself. do a search for "china trackpad supplier"... it'll be a laugh.
l.
I love the one on my old HP-Compaq here, Fedora detects it well. I should probably test it on Parabola first though, but its nice with rubber buttons for right and left click and demarcated right edge for scrolling up and down. They don't make em like this anymore I swear.
On January 27, 2017 8:57:51 AM GMT+03:00, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl@lkcl.net wrote:
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On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 5:53 AM, Allan Mwenda allanitomwesh@gmail.com wrote:
People use dovrak? ;) This is a nice idea, but wait, the laptop has an LCD touchpad? *runs
to
reinspect specs*
3.5in instead of a trackpad. getting hold of trackpads with buttons is a total bitch. i tried looking, about ten to fifteen times. give it a shot, yourself. do a search for "china trackpad supplier"... it'll be a laugh.
l.
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On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 6:07 AM, Allan Mwenda allanitomwesh@gmail.com wrote:
I love the one on my old HP-Compaq here, Fedora detects it well. I should probably test it on Parabola first though, but its nice with rubber buttons for right and left click and demarcated right edge for scrolling up and down. They don't make em like this anymore I swear.
... and even if they did, you can't find the manufacturer (because the entire keyword space "trackpad" is deluged with a hundred thousand copies of the exact same product... on aliexpress and alibaba). if you _could_ find the manufacturer they'd tell you it was no longer made. if they _did_ have it they'd ask you if you were a new rep for HP, and how many millions of units you wanted to buy.
the moment you say "i'm not with HP, i'd like 200 please" there would be this strange silence whilst they worked out if you were serious about destroying their million-dollar relationship for the sake of $500, by asking them to violate the copyright and trademarks of their partners, HP.
... so no. no trackpad.
l.
Just saw this on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/5rhuig/til_intels_creditcard...
Ralf-Peter
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On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:00 PM, Ralf-Peter Rohbeck via arm-netbook arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk wrote:
Just saw this on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/5rhuig/til_intels_creditcard...
Ralf-Peter
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On Thursday 2. February 2017 00.00.01 Ralf-Peter Rohbeck via arm-netbook wrote:
Just saw this on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/5rhuig/til_intels_creditcard...
I've been fed adverts for it now, leading to this product page at Mouser:
http://www.mouser.co.uk/new/Intel/intel-joule/
Pricing starts at around £150 per unit.
I see this as Intel gradually moving back towards what they know. Their embedded boards don't really seem to have been widely picked up, at least in the hacker/hobbyist mainstream (although maybe the Arduino 101 really has sold well), and what started with a higher-end Arduino competitor employing a Pentium-class CPU (Quark) became a 500MHz Atom-based product (second generation Edison) that has now led to this 1.5GHz Atom-based board (Joule).
Paul
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On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 11:22 PM, Paul Boddie paul@boddie.org.uk wrote:
On Thursday 2. February 2017 00.00.01 Ralf-Peter Rohbeck via arm-netbook wrote:
Just saw this on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/5rhuig/til_intels_creditcard...
I've been fed adverts for it now, leading to this product page at Mouser:
http://www.mouser.co.uk/pdfdocs/intel-joule-platform-mechanical-descriptor.p...
looks completely different
l.
On Wednesday 8. February 2017 00.28.39 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
http://www.mouser.co.uk/pdfdocs/intel-joule-platform-mechanical-
descriptor.pdf
looks completely different
Sorry, you're right! I saw something that resembled it, looked at the specifications which do include things like wireless networking, and forgot that they really are putting their Core line of CPUs into the Compute Card, whereas this other thing uses Atom, which one might have thought they'd be using for low power consumption. (I guess it was Atom and AMD's G-series that you very briefly considered for possible EOMA68 applications.)
Still, showering the market with products isn't likely to diminish consumer confusion, is it? Intel's own corporate attention span is as much a threat to this product as almost anything else.
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On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 12:04 AM, Paul Boddie paul@boddie.org.uk wrote:
On Wednesday 8. February 2017 00.28.39 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
http://www.mouser.co.uk/pdfdocs/intel-joule-platform-mechanical-
descriptor.pdf
looks completely different
Sorry, you're right! I saw something that resembled it, looked at the specifications which do include things like wireless networking, and forgot that they really are putting their Core line of CPUs into the Compute Card, whereas this other thing uses Atom, which one might have thought they'd be using for low power consumption. (I guess it was Atom and AMD's G-series that you very briefly considered for possible EOMA68 applications.)
Still, showering the market with products isn't likely to diminish consumer confusion, is it? Intel's own corporate attention span is as much a threat to this product as almost anything else.
they're desperate... which is why they've been funding (anti-competitive style) ODMs to use their processors, then subsidising wholesalers to stock them... and then offering subsidies to users to buy the resultant products.
at some point the FTC is going to catch on and give them a right royal kicking...
l.
On Wednesday 8. February 2017 01.04.35 Paul Boddie wrote:
Still, showering the market with products isn't likely to diminish consumer confusion, is it? Intel's own corporate attention span is as much a threat to this product as almost anything else.
And as anticipated...
"It's the end of the line for Intel Compute Cards" https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3073050/its-the-end-of-the-line-fo...
Informative quote:
"Spare a thought for NexDock, a partner of Intel that spent two years working on software to allow its NexPad computers to work with the Compute Cards, only for Intel to pull the hardware."
Details here:
"The Tale of NexDock and Intel Compute Card" http://nexdock.com/blog/the-tale-of-nexdock-and-intel-compute-card/
And there was also a cursory review almost two years ago:
"Intel Compute Card hands-on review" https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/review/3011074/intel-shows-off-computer...
It seems like people were receptive to the idea of pluggable computer cards, but Intel's proprietary technology was always going to threaten the viability of this implementation of the concept. Meanwhile, the NexDock people seem to be pursuing their smartphone docking campaign suggesting that USB-C will be the way that people might attach computer cards to their "docks" in future, however that might work.
Paul
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