Hello again,
I've also posted a message to the FSFE discussion list about the campaign:
http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-July/011110.html
There have been some discussions on that list about open hardware and the threats posed by proprietary hardware and the surveillance features of various CPU families, notably these threads:
http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-April/010912.html
(Featuring an attempt to fund a POWER8-based workstation.)
http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-June/011100.html
(Hopes for "truly free processor architectures", which might not be such a fantasy after all, given improvements in Free Software for programmable logic and synthesis.)
I rather hope for a solid discussion of the merits of the campaign, as opposed to people just claiming that it can't be done, won't work, or whatever.
Paul
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Paul Boddie paul@boddie.org.uk wrote:
Hello again,
I've also posted a message to the FSFE discussion list about the campaign:
http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-July/011110.html
ah! thank you!
There have been some discussions on that list about open hardware and the threats posed by proprietary hardware and the surveillance features of various CPU families, notably these threads:
http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-April/010912.html
(Featuring an attempt to fund a POWER8-based workstation.)
thought that said EOMA68-based for a minute.... did a bit of a double-take there :)
l.
hiya paul if it's ok with you i'd like to write something up, would you be happy to forward it on my behalf? i need to link some things together, also i met some of the FSFE people at FOSDEM2016 and would like them to know "this is what i showed you, it's really happening!" because so many people there were really excited about the prospect of a truly libre laptop.
more later?
l.
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
On Friday 1. July 2016 18.48.54 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
hiya paul if it's ok with you i'd like to write something up, would you be happy to forward it on my behalf? i need to link some things together, also i met some of the FSFE people at FOSDEM2016 and would like them to know "this is what i showed you, it's really happening!" because so many people there were really excited about the prospect of a truly libre laptop.
more later?
You can probably post to that list or even subscribe to it without having any FSFE affiliation, but I guess you don't really want to spend too much time repeating yourself everywhere. Nevertheless, I could forward something if it turned out that you couldn't post anything. (There was an initiative to allow guest contributions to various FSFE resources, but things are being rearranged and this might not be the case any more.)
In fact, my intention is to write a blog article about EOMA68 (and also other things that have been happening in similar projects), but I decided to write that message first because the FSFE blog site was down at the time. The topic is also pertinent to previous discussions as well, so we will see if anyone feels it worth discussing or not.
But by all means send stuff my way, get in touch privately, or whatever. :-)
Paul
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:16 PM, Paul Boddie paul@boddie.org.uk wrote:
But by all means send stuff my way, get in touch privately, or whatever. :-)
awesome ok draft is here, if you feel its appropriate do either link to it or post the contents, whatever you feel is best. http://rhombus-tech.net/crowdsupply/fsfe/
thx!
On Friday 1. July 2016 23.17.32 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
awesome ok draft is here, if you feel its appropriate do either link to it or post the contents, whatever you feel is best. http://rhombus-tech.net/crowdsupply/fsfe/
It looks good! :-) I'll certainly reference that in my blog article and any follow-up to the discussion list. Don't forget to link to the thread I started on the Rhombus Tech crowdsupply wiki page! And that might be a good place to link to the above page, too.
Paul
thanks good reminder --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:39 PM, Paul Boddie paul@boddie.org.uk wrote:
On Friday 1. July 2016 23.17.32 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
awesome ok draft is here, if you feel its appropriate do either link to it or post the contents, whatever you feel is best. http://rhombus-tech.net/crowdsupply/fsfe/
It looks good! :-) I'll certainly reference that in my blog article and any follow-up to the discussion list. Don't forget to link to the thread I started on the Rhombus Tech crowdsupply wiki page! And that might be a good place to link to the above page, too.
Paul
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Hi,
2016-07-01 17:23 Paul Boddie:
Hello again,
I've also posted a message to the FSFE discussion list about the campaign:
http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-July/011110.html
There have been some discussions on that list about open hardware and the threats posed by proprietary hardware and the surveillance features of various CPU families, notably these threads:
http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-April/010912.html
(Featuring an attempt to fund a POWER8-based workstation.)
http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-June/011100.html
(Hopes for "truly free processor architectures", which might not be such a fantasy after all, given improvements in Free Software for programmable logic and synthesis.)
I just posted about this in another thread of this mailing list, specifically about RISC-V. Hopefully somebody will make some in silicon rather than FPGA, either lowrisc, SiFive, or somebody else.
Also I forgot to mention the SH4 architecture with patents expired or expiring, and the intention to create the "J" cores, we'll see how it goes.
I rather hope for a solid discussion of the merits of the campaign, as opposed to people just claiming that it can't be done, won't work, or whatever.
I really believe that it CAN be done and that it WILL work, sooner or later ;)
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo manuel.montezelo@gmail.com wrote:
I just posted about this in another thread of this mailing list, specifically about RISC-V.
... where?
Hopefully somebody will make some in silicon rather than FPGA, either lowrisc, SiFive, or somebody else.
Also I forgot to mention the SH4 architecture with patents expired or expiring, and the intention to create the "J" cores, we'll see how it goes.
I rather hope for a solid discussion of the merits of the campaign, as opposed to people just claiming that it can't be done, won't work, or whatever.
I really believe that it CAN be done and that it WILL work, sooner or later ;)
it will... once people realise that the key bit that's hard is not the processor core, it's the management and sourcing of the hard macros *surrounding* the processor core.
l.
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