-------- Original Message -------- From: Christopher Havel laserhawk64@gmail.com Apparently from: arm-netbook-bounces@lists.phcomp.co.uk To: Eco-Conscious Computing arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] usb keyboard, width about 15cm? Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 13:10:26 -0400
The Bluetooth keyboards are Bluetooth only.
Wired USB keyboard, that size? Never seen one. Would love to have one
http://usb.brando.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=00666
myself; I've wanted to homebrew a waist-pack PC with wrist keyboard and "google glass" style screen, since approximately a half hour after the dawn of time. I've even got a viewfinder CRT out of an old camcorder that I could use as the display if I hooked it up right. Trouble is I don't trust BT to not interfere with everyone else and screw me up too... that, and I'd need to make it work with a battery.
Now that I think about it... I think I've seen one such keyboard literally once ever, either by luck on eBay or on some other website. Don't remember since it was at least five years ago. The thing commanded a princely sum, too... like $150.
It occurs to me as well that you might be able to get an industrial/commercial duty wrist PC off eBay (be prepared to pay multiple hundreds of dollars) and doof around with its built-in keyboard... or do something with part of a cell phone and a Teensy... but that's real jerry-rigging at best. There are also keyboards floating around for old IPAQ PDAs that may be useful somehow... but you'd have to reverse-engineer them and they look like they'd be horrible to use to begin with, you don't even get most PC function keys (TAB, CTRL, ALT, etc).
Good luck, and let me know if you find one... _______________________________________________ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netbook@files.phcomp.co.uk
"This item is discontinued" >.<
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 4:48 PM, ronwirring@safe-mail.net wrote:
-------- Original Message -------- From: Christopher Havel laserhawk64@gmail.com Apparently from: arm-netbook-bounces@lists.phcomp.co.uk To: Eco-Conscious Computing arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] usb keyboard, width about 15cm? Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 13:10:26 -0400
The Bluetooth keyboards are Bluetooth only.
Wired USB keyboard, that size? Never seen one. Would love to have one
http://usb.brando.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=00666
myself; I've wanted to homebrew a waist-pack PC with wrist keyboard and "google glass" style screen, since approximately a half hour after the
dawn
of time. I've even got a viewfinder CRT out of an old camcorder that I could use as the display if I hooked it up right. Trouble is I don't
trust
BT to not interfere with everyone else and screw me up too... that, and
I'd
need to make it work with a battery.
Now that I think about it... I think I've seen one such keyboard
literally
once ever, either by luck on eBay or on some other website. Don't
remember
since it was at least five years ago. The thing commanded a princely sum, too... like $150.
It occurs to me as well that you might be able to get an industrial/commercial duty wrist PC off eBay (be prepared to pay multiple hundreds of dollars) and doof around with its built-in keyboard... or do something with part of a cell phone and a Teensy... but that's real jerry-rigging at best. There are also keyboards floating around for old IPAQ PDAs that may be useful somehow... but you'd have to
reverse-engineer
them and they look like they'd be horrible to use to begin with, you
don't
even get most PC function keys (TAB, CTRL, ALT, etc).
Good luck, and let me know if you find one... _______________________________________________ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netbook@files.phcomp.co.uk
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On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:04 PM, Christopher Havel laserhawk64@gmail.com wrote:
"This item is discontinued" >.<
so that's 2 dead-ends... so far.
keep going, ron. you'll only really start to understand how difficult this really is only by persisting until you *succeed* in finding what you want. or trying a different tack. or several. until you succeed.
and this is just one component out of the dozens that you'll need to source in order to complete the proposed conversion of *one used laptop*.
i believe the record so far for finding the correct (suitable) part for the EOMA68-A20 stands at five years. it's the mid-mount micro-hdmi (type D) connector. JAE DC3 series.
... are you beginning to get an appreciation for the perspective that, from an ecological standpoint, spending the time and energy on "converting" pre-existing mass-volume-designed products is an extraordinarily wasteful use of our planet's resources?
this was the main unspoken message of that ted talk "how i made a $3 toaster for $1800 and took a year to do it".
l.
I am not sure if you like this idea, but making a usb wifi adapter in an eco and libre way.
aka within an eoma standard.
My only reason for suggesting this is that libre ones might become scarce eventually and you have enough talent I bet to make a very strong yet still lightweight though.
By strong I meant like 450mbps and very lightweight is what I meant by lightweight.
I am giving this thought to you, because you are thinking of making a router why not a usb wifi adapter too as well?
This would be something far off I imagine though. but its a thought I wanted to throw out there.
Tell me what you think Luke.
On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:20 AM, zap calmstorm@posteo.de wrote:
I am not sure if you like this idea, but making a usb wifi adapter in an eco and libre way.
funnily enough i was looking to source AR9271 ICs and a reference design to be able to mitigate the risk of the AR9271 becoming less common (which it already is, due to atheros/qualcomm's new management not quite understanding why ath9k was so popular)
aka within an eoma standard.
no - USB already covers that adequately.
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 04:48:03PM -0400, ronwirring@Safe-mail.net wrote:
Promising! but as Christopher mentioned, "This item is Discontinued".
I had luck searching for another 56 key keyboard ("50%"?): USD $23.73
http://www.dx.com/p/mini-56-key-usb-keyboard-with-retractable-usb-cable-for-... http://www.dx.com/p/15953 http://www.dx.com/c/computers-tablets-networking-399/keyboards-302/USB-351
The X/Y dimensions are very similar, though it's 60% heavier and 5mm thicker. Dimensions: 6.69 in x 2.91 in x 0.79 in (170 x 74 x 20 mm) Weight: 6.53 oz (185g)
I think I'd miss the dedicated arrow keys. I'd like it even more if it had an integrated trackball or trackpoint, which I guess requires a USB hub device/emulation as well?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_stick
Nick.
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