[Arm-netbook] Status update

[Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton]

On Thursday, November 24, 2022, Paul Boddie <paul at boddie.org.uk> wrote:
> On Wednesday, 23 November 2022 23:19:01 CET Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> wrote:
>>
>> what i am *very* pissed off about and will not tolerate is
>> people assuming that i can and am going to do everything for
>> them. this attitude is completely unacceptable.
>
> Nobody asked you "to do everything for them". But they probably didn't
> appreciate the experience of being offered things and then being told "oh,
> that's your job" along with detailed instructions on how they should be
doing
> it.

i know this reaction. i have it myself, and seen it also
many times.  someone says something, it's repeated, but
the attention to the words is low.  they repeat them,
but nobody takes it seriously, because they are not really
paying attention: the reason being, "the rubber has not hit
the road" quite just yet.

then something happens, such as "delivery deadline" (coming
up, or likely to be missed, or *actually* missed.

at that point the words that were repeated time and time
again, that were not taken seriously, are put in front of
them as a reminder, and all hell breaks loose.



> Well, I am sincerely sorry that this has brought you hardship.

appreciated.  the lesson for me is to put my foot down and
not tolerate that.

> It is not
> merely hindsight in saying that I could see that you were risking burning
> yourself out in the way you were pursuing this effort.

and having components go EOL five times, costing redesigns
each time.  we know it's all in the updates.

if we had USD 1 million+ like the failed Intel Compute Card
the entire thing would have been done years ago.

>> and i'm being told i'm a "scammer" and should deliver what
>> you DEMAND?? fuck off!!
>
> I don't demand anything, really, haven't called you a scammer,

no, you haven't - chuck did.

> nor do I
> believe that you are one, either. But it seems to me that you have spread
> yourself too thin, quite possibly to maximise the appeal of the campaign.

no, i took a risk. the 75 updates explain the rationale and the
journey.

> However, none of that was done at our request.
>
> I will return to remarks about "community" since you brought that up. In a
> community, it doesn't all fall to one person to do everything, but in a
> situation where someone has made themselves the central individual who
decides
> and facilitates everything, it becomes very difficult to distribute the
burden
> because there is no genuine delegation of anything. Why else do you think
> people have been wanting answers from you personally rather than from a
> selection of other people?

because Crowsdsupply provided the means to do so.
i must talk to them about it and redirect to a mailing list
but i refrained from doing that in case people ask confidential
questions that got publicised without their expectations,
or it cost CS engineering time to set up.

> [...]
>
>> above. would you write something publicly that resulted in
>> someone losing their livelihood after they'd given you money
>> to feed yourself and your family for over two years?
>>
>> could you do that to someone?
>>
>> have a look at some of the news coming out of Keene, NH.
>> Chris has been through some pretty rough shit. he doesn't
>> need to be treated any rougher.
>
> I don't follow "the news coming out of Keene, NH",

google "Christopher Waid Keene NH arrest" or
"Chris Waid Keene FBI Raid".

you will need to use archive.org because of geo-blocking.


> but you still seem to be
> advocating for the public shaming of the guy,

it's a known technique that is going to happen whether he
or any of us like it or not. i have warned him enough times
in the 40+ emails he has ignored that if he does not tell
me what the fuck is going on i will have no choice but
to escalate. this still did not get a response so i am
left with no choice but to proceed with the planned update.

> so I might well wonder what the
> real deal is here, because this really doesn't add up at all. Are we
supposed
> to act as your proxies in this matter as well?

no, you are expected to act on your own behalf.
calmly, respectfully (except in Chuck's case),
and bearing in mind that Chris has gone through
hell too recently, and that he did at one point
donate me USD 60,000 over 2+ years.

i can only repeat this so many times before i
simply give up.

> I actually wouldn't mind some answers

you mean, other than the 75 updates and the answers
here already provided?

> about how this situation was able to get
> to this rather unhappy point.

so would i.

but because Chris is ignoring my communications the
only option remaining is for *other people* to
contact him and ask, i can't believe i am repeating
this again, "where are the 93 Computer Cards".


> The money seems to have flowed freely enough,

no, it flowed until it reached the point where taking
further funds would no longer permit product to be manufactured.
at which point i had to urgently find other money.

this is all in the updates, i have repeated this enough
times that i am really quite concerned: have you been
reading them *at all*?

> and yet the only recourse being suggested appears to be a form of mob
justice,

yyep. it is a known technique.  i have been very systematic
over the past 18+ months, slowly escalating.  it should
be obvious due to the context why i kept matters private,
because if he responded "omg omg i'm so sorry, get someone
to pick up the Cards so Joshua can take over testing", nobody
would need to know that he systematically ignored 40 emails,
3 phone calls, and at least 8 support tickets, from at least
15 people including the CEO of Crowdsupply.

you absolutely don't take these kinds of decisions lightly.
they are getting on for "last resort", but after 18+ months
we are at the last resort stage, after exhausting all other
"less distasteful" means.


> despite the involvement of numerous commercial entities. I can hardly find
> that credible at all. In fact, I find it all rather distasteful.

yyep.

but he should not have lied to me, nor embezzled 0.8 BTC.
he made a committment to test the Cards, and to ship them
out.  i transferred the donated 0.8 BTC worth 40,000 at the time
specifically to him, to do exactly that.

and he has not responded since Bob tested one Card.

i have tried private shaming, he has not responded.

i have tried Crowdsupply contacting him, he has not responded.

i have tried asking backers to contact him, he has not responded.

on this list right now, people have attempted to contact him,
he has censored the messages and not responded.


public shaming is the step before the absolute last resort,
the one that costs money (which we do not have)

if you have better realistic ideas (not involving "get Mouser
Lawyers" or "Get Warren to call him") that do not involve
me spending time or money i am open to hearing them.

l.


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