[Arm-netbook] pyra computer

[Louis Pearson]

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:33 AM, Julie Marchant <onpon4 at riseup.net> wrote:

> On 2018年02月14日 06:45, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> >  .... yes.  my understanding is that Trademarks and Cerfitication
> > Marks, by being covered *by* Copyright Law, are in effect a sub-branch
> > of Copyright.
>
> No, copyright has nothing to do with them. Why do you think copyright
> has anything to do with anything you are doing?
>
> Copyright is a legal monopoly on the copying and distribution of a work.
> It was originally invented in Britain as a form of censorship, where the
> monarch would approve printers to print books in the form of a temporary
> monopoly. The current incarnation of copyright exists with the
> justification of encouraging the creation of works, e.g. books. It has
> nothing whatsoever to do with names or certifications. All that
> documentation could be in the public domain and it would make absolutely
> no difference. Heck, a lot of corporate logos are in the public domain;
> you can't copyright fonts, and logos like that of SONY are nothing but
> printed text, meaning they can't be copyrighted.
>
> IANAL, of course.
>
> >  the key thing is that i am *required* to be FRAND (fair, reasonable
> > and non-discriminatory).  if the entity known as "ronwirring" were
> > just simply told to bugger off, he could perfectly reasonably claim,
> > under trademark / certification mark / copyright law (whichever it is)
> > that he had been "discriminated against" by me, the (copyright) owner
> > of the EOMA68 Certification Mark.
> That's an issue with patent licensing, yet another completely different
> issue you're lumping together with this.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_and_non-discriminatory_licensing
>
> But let's assume that certification marks don't allow you to
> discriminate against people in relation to it. That would be the
> granting of certification. Have you threatened to deny certification
> arbitrarily? No? Good. No one has to be a member of a random mailing
> list to get certification for a product.
>
> Still not a lawyer, still not legal advice, of course.
>
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It occurs to me that Luke is a citizen of the UK, and so may not be
using US law. The question is which law is he using? That could
change things quite a bit.

(Which reminds me that outside of the US, giving legal advice is
allowed, even if you aren't a lawyer)