[Arm-netbook] Reframing The Holy War

Adam Van Ymeren adam at vany.ca
Mon Dec 10 14:02:57 GMT 2018



On December 10, 2018 8:48:56 AM EST, Hendrik Boom <hendrik at topoi.pooq.com> wrote:
>On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 12:45:42AM +0100, Paul Boddie wrote:
>> 
>> Of course, one could look more closely at microkernel-based systems
>for a 
>> possible remedy. Sadly, ever since the famous Torvalds versus
>Tanenbaum 
>> discussion, plenty of people cling to the remarks of the former as he
>sought 
>> to ridicule the work of the latter, oblivious to the fact that...
>> 
>>  1. Microkernel performance was always a tradeoff (acknowledged by
>the DMERT
>>     work done by Bell Labs in the 1970s and in other contemporary
>work).
>>  2. Performance has improved substantially over the years and in some
>cases
>>     wasn't that bad to begin with, either.
>>  3. Billions of devices have shipped with microkernels.
>> 
>> Some people also probably cling to the idea that Torvalds "won" his
>debate. 
>> Now that MINIX 3 runs in every Intel CPU supporting Management Engine
>
>> functionality, it is clear who actually won, at least in terms of the
>"bottoms 
>> on seats" measure of success that the Linux kernel developers tend to
>
>> emphasise over things like GPL compliance by vendors (some of those
>vendors 
>> being Linux Foundation members, of course).
>
>Just curious -- what microkernel systems are available to run on modern
>
>home computers just in case one is tired of Linux and wanting to try 
>something else?

MINIX and GNU Hurd both exist and work.  Hardware support isn't great however, might not work on the specific machine you have.

>
>-- hendrik
>
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