[Arm-netbook] OT: Librem 5?

doark at mail.com doark at mail.com
Thu Nov 16 15:47:27 GMT 2017


On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 15:46:34 +0100
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl at lkcl.net> wrote:

> ---
> crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Bill Kontos <vkontogpls at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> > <lkcl at lkcl.net> wrote:
> >  
> >>  they made it look like, because everything else was libre, there was
> >> really absolutely no harm done by having the ME firmware, you really
> >> had nothing to be concerned about, you could buy one of their
> >> machines and have a totally secure system.
> >>  
> >
> > I don't recall that to be honest.  
> 
>  yes.  primarily it's by omission.
> 
> > From what I understand they said the
> > laptop would ship 100% libre from the beginning while they ended up
> > shiping a traditional laptop with killswitches and the ability to run
> > coreboot in the future, something that they achieved now. And they
> > have a decent number of articles about their work on disabling the
> > intel ME.  
> 
>  their _requests to intel_ to disable the ME back-door co-processor...
> specifically requested (or, well... if the NSA "asks" you can't
> exactly say "No"... not if you want to stay in business...) that it be
> added in the first place.
> 
>  which do you think intel will take seriously: the threats the NSA
> made against them (along with the nice bribes).. or a company that
> makes up 0.00001% of their global business sales?
> 
> > I don't think it is and that switch was only a very recent
> > discovery.  
> 
>  yehyeh.
> 
> > It's ironic, the moment intel moved the AMT to x86 everyone got into
> > breaking it. And there is a scheduled talk on how to run unsigned code
> > on any intel ME system for a conference in the next couple weeks.  
> 
>  at laaaast.  that's extremely good news.  maybe i can do an intel
> eoma68 card some day after all.
> 
> l.

BTW: Sorry this is so late, I've been catching up on my mail.
A scheduled talk held where? Can I get a copy?

Thanks,
David



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