[Arm-netbook] Arm processors

[zap]

On 03/01/2017 11:22 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 12:49 AM, zap <zapper at openmailbox.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 03/01/2017 06:58 PM, John Luke Gibson wrote:
>>> And, Luke mentioned inquiries being made about using RISC-V in a 100%
>>> open core board. That's probably a more longterm slightly optimistic
>> ah okay fair enough. I was just curious if he planned to reverse
>> engineer ones with 8gb or more in the later future.
>  reverse-engineering i have come to the conclusion is a total - and
> criminal - waste of time and effort.  by the time all features are
> 100% stable it's several YEARS down the line.  look at how long ago
> the A64 was released, and the libdram code STILL HAS NOT BEEN
> REVERSE-ENGINEERED.  it's 200 lines of code for fuck's sake.
Wait its criminal?

Well at least I know now.  

But I do recall you were talking about other processors even after that.

I must have been mistaken
>
>  NO.
>
>  read this, zap:
>
>  https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/updates/picking-a-processor

So Rockchip and A20 are the only ones you can do it too you think?

Ah okay. Well I hope something will change for you. though unlikely it
may seem.

and even more than that, I hope Trisquel 8 will someday come out of
alpha and support arm as a whole.


> that should give you some idea of how insane pretty much every single
> fabless semiconductor company really is.  they're just not paying
> attention: every single one of them makes at least one compromise,
> somewhere, and because it's an *integrated* SoC there's absolutely
> nothing that can be done about it.

That bad huh? I had no idea that it was that frustrating.

>
> so we need to be of the order of a MILLION units to be in a position
> to influence these people.  and if you're going for a million units,
> you might as well get your own SoC custom-made.
>
>  anyone knows of an open silicon H.264 and MPEG design that is capable
> of up to 1080p60 video decode, do let me know.
>
> l.
>
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