[Arm-netbook] The dream of Ara

Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl at lkcl.net
Fri Jan 13 09:05:27 GMT 2017


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On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 8:35 AM, mike.valk at gmail.com
<mike.valk at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2017-01-13 9:11 GMT+01:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl at lkcl.net>:
>>
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>> crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 7:55 AM, mike.valk at gmail.com
>> <mike.valk at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 2017-01-13 4:56 GMT+01:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl at lkcl.net>:
>> >>
>> >> ---
>> >> crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Wolfgang Romey <hier at wolfgangromey.de>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I think my FairPhone 2, which I own for a month, is some kind of a
>> >> > modular
>> >> > smartphone.
>> >>
>> >>  it's not: they lied.
>> >
>> >
>> > If they're intentions were honest it's not a lie. It's just being naive.
>>
>>  no, it's called lying.  or, at best, deceptive marketing.
>>
>> > But all most parts are, user, replaceable. Which indeed does not make it
>> > modular, but serviceable.
>>
>>  correct.
>>
>>  if it was a truly modular design, the parts would snap or slide-lock
>> apart in some fashion, there would be a hardware and software standard
>> published, and the parts would be re-useble in future designs and they
>> would have PUBLISHED SOME INDICATION OF THEIR EXISTENCE already.
>>
>>  so it's total horseshit and they know it.  they're not stupid: they
>> had enough people on their forums talk about dave hakkan's phonebloks
>> concept for them to have heard the word "modular" enough times.
>>
>>
>> > The biggest issue is that they've tied the modem and SIM directly to the
>> > rest of the system. It's a cheap decision. Which most manufactures have
>> > done
>> > unfortunately. [1]
>>
>>  i told them that it's easy to get hold of a cheap 3G modem containing
>> a qualcomm MSM chipset.  they ceased communication shortly afterwards.
>
>
> You're being to brief here.

 i remember the part number: SEW291.  uses a MSM6290 or something.
using that it is entirely isolated via a USB bus, audio is isolated
behind a PWM interface, power may be provided (and CUT with a hard
physical kill switch) so that the 3G modem may be enabled for example
only for a few minutes when you are in a crowded area, exchange
messages (send and receive), hard-cut the 3G modem again and disappear
into the crowd.

if someone *really* wants to upload OTA firmware and arbitrary
executables during that time, they're more than welcome to try - but
it will do absolutely no good if the 3G modem module is POWERED DOWN.

 this is the design that i intend to make with the hybridphone.
http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/hybrid_phone/

l.



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