[Arm-netbook] System 76 - Entering Phase 3

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Mon Apr 24 15:42:14 BST 2017



On 04/24/2017 04:40 AM, John Luke Gibson wrote:
> On 4/24/17, John Luke Gibson <eaterjolly at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 4/24/17, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl at lkcl.net> wrote:
>>
>>>  lyberta, do look up eckart tolle's story, it's very very funny (and
>>> relevant).  ok ok i can't resist telling the tale: he was an academic,
>>> in some of the worst (bitchiest) back-stabbing in-fighting for funding
>>> and "status" academic environments it's possible to be in, and it was
>>> really *really* getting him down.  so one day he woke up and said to
>>> himself, intending to kill himself, "i can't live with myself".
>>>
>>>  except, the academic in him went, "hang on a minute, what the hell?
>>> what the hell is the damn difference between this "I" and this
>>> "myself"?? in that stupid sentence!  *I* can't live with my "self"??
>>> wtf??"  and the sudden and revelationary recognition of the incredible
>>> cognitive dissonance between two "things" - two "selfs" - in his mind
>>> which he *wasn't even aware were separate" resulted in what's known in
>>> the trade as a "kundalini whiteout".
>>>
>>>  when he came to he found he was still sitting on the bed but he could
>>> perceive things in a totally new way.  i won't go into the rest of the
>>> story but he's now one of the western world's best known "spiritual
>>> masters", so his books (including audio books) are well worth reading.
>>>
>> I'm not sure how my feedback on this is valued, but :
>> Believe it or not, I'm not a fan of Eckhart not just 'cause I always
>> despised the definitive "all knowing" rhetoric used by both Church's
>> AND spiritualists, but because I felt Eckhart et-all frequently made
>> the habit of making individuals feel better about themselves by
>> demeaning and incessantly talking about how worthless and powerless
>> so-called "oppressive" forces are, literally as an abstract. Life's
>> meaning (in my opinion) is literally based around conflict as an
>> abstract (not just violence), so it kinda feels like their
>> interpretation of life is a bit pointless if one doesn't make being
>> spiritual a part of their identity (since to them conflict with one's
>> self seems to be the only conflict that has any meaning, and kinda
>> implies if a person views themselves as good human beings just the way
>> they are that they are living a life with nothing but pointless
>> conflicts). That's just my opinion xP
>>
> Oops I meant to send that just to Luke, Not the whole list, sorry
> everybody for any bit derailing mt comments may be here xD Sorry
Too late, I already responded ;P

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