[Arm-netbook] System 76 - Entering Phase 3

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On 04/21/2017 08:19 PM, John Luke Gibson wrote:
> Having less proprietary software, means less backdoors, less
> surveillance, less knowledge barriers, less remote theft of computing
> resources, etc. It's not perfect, but it's less of the disturbing
> stuff.
I agree with that thought process, but its still not ideal or as good as
it should be.

System76 isn't really a good idea due to the ubuntu and linux rather
than even debian or free software and libre... Trisquel would be by far
better free software wise, but I think you get my point,
Ubuntu is nowhere near as free software friendly as debian. at least by
default without turning it into trisquel.
 I am sure thinkpenguin knows this all too well.

libreboot is not ideal either, because it uses crappy intel processors
even if the intel me is removed,  and there are other issues which are
problematic... which is why eoma68 standard is greatly needed in this world.


>
> On 4/21/17, John Luke Gibson <eaterjolly at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Let's do bear in mind that they do have real reasons for keeping
>> proprietary blobs in their systems. While these reasons do not measure
>> to the ethical concerns, think about this in terms of a much more
>> grossly obvious circumstance: if a barbarian kills two people in
>> bandit raids everyday, and you convince that barbarian to kill one
>> less person each day, then yes they are still killing, but you're not
>> in the end compromising your principles by making the observation that
>> the situation is better and are in no way contradicting those morals
>> by praising the barbarian for being less murderous. Obviously this is
>> a gross comparison but I think it demonstrates a universal principle
>> very well.
>>
>> On 4/21/17, Stefan Monnier <monnier at iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>>>> Compromise is a trap and why theres no libre wifi and gpus
>>> Lyberta talked about (and I responded about) "respect",
>>> not "compromise" or even "collaborate".
>>>
>>>
>>>         Stefan
>>>
>>>
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