[Arm-netbook] EOMA68 libre laptop and microdesktop, soon to launch

[Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton]

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crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68


On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Paul Boddie <paul at boddie.org.uk> wrote:
> On Friday 27. May 2016 01.08.19 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 11:35 PM, Paul Boddie <paul at boddie.org.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm sure it'll happen eventually. With the recent bad publicity around
>> > their kernel code, perhaps they'll see the benefits of cooperating a bit
>> > more with other people.
>>
>>  interesting - what happened?  been too busy - any links?
>
> Sorry for the long links...
>
> http://forum.armbian.com/index.php/topic/1108-security-alert-for-allwinner-
> sun8i-h3a83th8/
>
> https://olimex.wordpress.com/2016/05/10/how-to-root-any-allwinner-device-
> running-android-and-most-of-the-chinese-pi-clones-which-bet-on-allwinner-
> android-linux-kernel/
>
> It got quite a bit of wider coverage, too.

 ok just a way to debug devices bearing in mind that convenience and
supporting companies to be able to sell as many products as they can
is more important than security *sigh*.  ok so that can always be
commented out.

> [...]
>
>> > I guess this is with regard to FSF certification and whether you could
>> > offer the jz4775 within a RYF-branded campaign. And I guess that Debian
>> > is still out of the picture, which I think is the distro of choice for
>> > the MIPS Creator CI20 and CI40, those being perhaps the closest products
>> > to what you'd be offering.
>>
>>  a modern kernel would be needed, the one i'm starting with is 3.0.8
>> (because that's what ingenic have that works) - any dependencies on
>> udev tied to later versions and it's game over for a recent OS without
>> a lot of extra work.
>
> Did you not get various people doing Linux stuff for MIPS/Ingenic-based
> products involved at some point? The GCW-Zero uses the jz4770 and the
> developers appear to maintain a much more recent kernel:
>
> https://github.com/gcwnow/linux
>
> The MIPS Creator stuff should also be using more recent kernels, too, although
> the following probably isn't where the most recent work has been taking place:
>
> https://github.com/MIPS/CI20_linux
>
> Incidentally, it looks like the CI40 will run OpenWrt, not Debian:
>
> https://community.imgtec.com/platforms/creator-ci40/
>
> You might have more luck with the following:
>
> https://git.linux-mips.org/cgit/linux-mti.git

 thanks.

>
> Even the Ben NanoNote uses a more recent kernel than 3.0.8 - mine runs Debian
> Wheezy on a somewhat newer kernel - but I accept that you'd have to assess
> whether the jz4775 would really be supported properly in any non-Ingenic work.

 i can bootstrap up using known-good to known-good and/or at least get
boards into people's hands once hardware's proven to work.

> I can't say that I've been tracking the state of Linux for a while. I did try
> to get a device-tree-capable kernel working on the NanoNote, but the kernel
> support for various devices wasn't there, and I'm not familiar enough with the
> different mechanisms to troubleshoot the various deficiencies. Of course, it
> doesn't help that Linux documentation is in general lacking and/or awful.

 i don't mind, as long as there's source.

> Paul
>
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