[Arm-netbook] eoma68-project

[Wolfgang Romey]

Hallo Luke,

i think it makes no sense forwarding your email to the list and to marcus. I 
have the impression, that marcus cannot accept the fact that he is wrong.

Never the less, i will use your arguments on the mailing list.

Wolfgang

Am Freitag, 29. Juli 2016, 21:09:14 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton:
> wolfgang, hi, i ran this one through google translate:
> http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/fsfe-de/2016-July/008455.html
> 
> whilst i can reply cc to marcus directly, what i cannot do is reply
> into the conversation at the right point in the thread (because i am
> not subscribed, and gmane is now gone... argh!) - could i ask you to
> forward this on, on my behalf?
> 
>  marcus, you wrote (in german):
> > The proposed processor comes from Allwinner.  This manufacturer
> > is only known for a variety of GPL violations.
> > 
> >  Personally, I would therefore rather refrain from support of the project.
> 
> you're wrong about the GPL violations on the A20, although i can fully
> understand the misunderstanding.  but that's beside the point: the
> alternatives are much *much* worse.  would you prefer that we used a
> processor that was DRM-locked?  or that had Treacherous Zone?  or that
> had a back-door co-processor that could do arbitrary remote
> code-execution without your knowledge?  or that booted up from
> proprietary DRM-locked arbitrary signed AND ENCRYPTED bootloaders
> either from the GPU or from the main CPU itself?
> 
> all of these processors exist with *all* of the above absolutely
> terrible and totally unethical designs *BUILT IN*.
> 
> by total contrast, the Allwinner A20 is:
> 
> (a) "unbrickable".  it was designed this way so that there is
> **ABSOLUTELY NO WAY** that any accidental application of DRM by an
> incompetent China OEM could "lock" the product containing an A20 by
> mistake.  turns out that this is perfect for ensuring that people can
> upload their own OS.
> 
> (b) entirely GPL-compliant.  this has taken a *LOT* of work by the
> software libre community, pressurising allwinner and carrying out
> reverse-engineering over many years.  to say "i will refrain from
> support of the project" is therefore, if i may be absolutely blunt,
> quite disrespectful to the people who's hard work in the linux-sunxi
> community has brought you this OPPORTUNITY to completely own your own
> hardware, free from spyware.
> 
> the situation with allwinner is complex.  there are many extremely
> powerful investors who in Chinese Society are "above the pay-grade" of
> the Directors in terms of China "Social Status".  this is causing them
> huge problems internally, despite the **DIRECT** wishes of the Vice
> President!
> 
> it is a very strange situation that could really only happen in china.
> far from ostracising and boycotting them, we need instead to *BUY*
> products that are GPL-compliant, so that the Vice President has a way
> to say, "look, these products are fully compliant with the GPL and
> they're SELLING REALLY WELL".
> 
> if you boycott the entire company, that actually fucks up everything
> i'm trying to achieve, and actually DESTROYS any opportunity to
> introduce software freedom.
> 
> l.
> 
> ---
> crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> 
> <lkcl at lkcl.net> wrote:
> > http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/fsfe-de/2016-July/008504.html
> > 
> > yay found the fsfe-de archives, these are actually really hard to
> > find, they're not listed publicly and can't be found with a google
> > search.
> > 
> > l.
> 
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