[Arm-netbook] What I have done so far

[fuumind]

Hi!

I agree with your conclusion 100%. I just felt a need to make the end
goal clearly visible and that end goal is to change how the ordinary
person thinks about consumer electronics. It is not the choices of a
few thousand enthusiasts that will make a difference but the choices of
a few billion average consumers. From that perspective you and I do
more for the environment by pledging to this campaign than we do by not
pledging because we allready have the hardware that we need. The latter
is just a drop in the ocean. Then there is of course the libre,
integrity and money-saving prespectives as well!

You have allready donated so in that way you have done more than I
have. I needed to make absolutely clear what I am rooting for so that I
can present it to the people around me in the best possible way and as
Luke has allready stated, the ordinary consumer will hearken to two
things: cost and convenience. Those are what we need to put major focus
on in the long run. That is the nature of the beast.

In regards to this campaign the target group is the tech-minded and
since the offering is so diverse you'll have to tailor the arguments to
fit the person I guess. If the moral perspective is a feasible argument
in any discussion then that would be the best as I see it.

As things stand though and as you say, pledges keep coming in even
without the publicity that the FSF could bring, and that is a great
thing! :)

ps 

When it comes to mobile phones I'm rooting more for the freecalypso
project. They are trying to liberate the baseband, a very unsexy work
that no one else is doing. "The needs of the many outwheighs the wants
of the few."

ds


mån 2016-07-25 klockan 12:30 +0100 skrev Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo:
> Hi,
> 
> 2016-07-25 10:10 fuumind:
> > 
> > Just for the record and from my very egotistical point of view: 
> > 
> > A product that I would buy is a smallish fully libre smartphone of
> > good
> > quality with good performance, a ****load of storage and battery
> > lasting a month at least. It would also need to have the option of
> > plugging it into a usb hub to get me a workstation with
> > kb+mouse+large
> > display+better audio. And it would have to be dirt cheap ;)
> Your analysis from the other e-mail is very interesting.
> 
> I was only trying to analyse why people in or close to FOSS and libre
> hardware communities didn't embrace this campaign more
> enthusiastically.
>   
> As the e-mail says towards the end:
> 
>    The question is "How do we gather enough passionate recruits to
> get
>    this revolution going?" but that question is hard to fit into the
>    realities of a marketing campaign for a couple of products.
> 
> There's the possibility to just donate money to the project, and I
> did a
> couple of years ago (to this project and also to the related and
> failed
> Improv).
> 
> But in the end, for the campaign to be successful, it also needs to
> provide products that people want to pledge for (if nothing else, to
> meet the minimum quantity to fabricate the chips that Luke keeps
> mentioning), so everybody needs some kind of hook to engage with the
> project.  It also serves to gauge interest in future products, once
> the
> campaign ends.
> 
> 
> In your case, you would be thrilled to pledge for the hardware that
> you
> mention.  You say that it would have to be dirty cheap, but many
> people
> are investing significant amounts of money to get the Neo900 rolling,
> which probably is the closest product in the works resembling what
> you
> describe.  This is more or less the "specialist" hardware that I
> mentioned in my previous message.
> 
> 
> In my case, I would be interested in a possible range of products,
> but
> none of the current meet the expectations in one way or another:
> 
> - The only one laptop that I owned with <1000p of vertical resolution
> I
>   hated with passion (partly because of the resolution and partly
>   because of the glossy screen).  I happily saw it go when some
>   components stopped working just after the warranty expired... I was
>   relieved --rather than angry-- for missing the warranty for a few
>   weeks.
> 
>   So I think that buying a laptop from the campaign with that screen
>   resolution would be a mistake in my case.  Personally I also need
>   something much more powerful than the A20 for tasks that I do daily
> on
>   the computer (both in terms of CPU and memory).
> 
> - Close family are still well served by the options already available
>   around the home, e.g. Thinkpads a decade old (still from IBM).
> 
> - I will need one or two mini-servers at home in 1~2 months.  I have
>   several small devices around the house with different
> architectures,
>   some not even purchased but given to me for some reason or another,
>   and that I have not tried yet after 1 year sitting in a bookcase;
> as
>   well as older x86 systems that still fit the bill and work fine.
> 
>   So I could give some use to EOMA cards if I pledge for them (still
>   deciding), but in that case I would keep the other hardware unused
>   (not eco-friendly, and a bit of a waste of money).  And I would
> need
>   them now-ish, waiting until next spring is not an option for that
>   small personal project.
> 
> 
> I think that many people wanting to support the project would have
> similar conflicts and are not decided about what to do.
> 
> It's a pity that RFY certification can only start after the campaign
> is
> finished.  With lots of visibility, at least it would mean that
> there's
> a bigger set of people in the intersection "I want to support this
> project", "I need this hardware/products in a few months" and "I can
> pay
> them now".
> 
> 
> Meanwhile, pledges keep increasing :-)
> 
> 
> Cheers.