[Arm-netbook] Enlightenment DE?

Christopher Havel laserhawk64 at gmail.com
Sun Jul 3 05:24:49 BST 2016


I run Puppy. Have for a couple years now.

It runs (poorly) on my 1999 Dell Latitude CPi. It runs amazingly well on my
custom system that I'm typing this on (Aaeon GENE-QM77 motherboard with
i3-3120M CPU and 4gb DDR3, 256gb SSD + 32gb CFast card, built into the
underside of a Dell AT-101W keyboard with a little spatial assistance from
the bottom half of a very dead Commodore Plus/4 -- I have pictures of the
build if anyone is sufficiently bored/interested). There are a few weird
thin clients I have -- most notably the Neoware CA19, which has problems
with the framebuffer drivers in TahrPup 6.0.2 during boot (it freezes at
the point where the viafb driver is supposed to kick in), and the Wyse
C90LE (or anything else with a VIA VX855 or related chipset) which needs
the latest OpenChrome from github because OpenChrome v.0.3.3 doesn't work
on that hardware (it was broken; I was the original reporter of the bug and
a part of how it got fixed) -- that have issues, but by and large it runs
on anything between those two systems I mentioned. You will generally have
issues with extremely ancient systems (5x86-class machines in particular --
stick to Lucid Puppy 5.25 or earlier, or use ClassicPup 2.14x), extremely
fancy new systems (that brand new $5k gaming rig you just mortgaged your
house for so that you can play Half Life 4-1/2 if it ever comes out), or
extremely weird systems (*à la* my hobby of 'reeducating' thin clients into
low-power desktop systems).

Also worth knowing. Puppy is more a family of distros than it is one single
distro. We have right now two current official releases -- TahrPup 6.0.5CE,
TahrPup64 6.0.5CE -- and a whole pile of older releases and community
builds. XenialPup (in 32b and 64b flavors both) is in progress at the
moment. One of the 'big ideas' of Puppy is 'rolling your own Pup should be
easy' -- and it is. I'm no dev and I've done it. Can't support 'em -- so I
stopped -- but it's not hard to make and release a Pup. (Terminology I use
-- "Puppy" = official, "Puplet" = community-contributed build, "Pup" =
generic term for either one. There is no *official* standard on that, but
the terminology as described is adhered to somewhat loosely by the
community at large.)

If you want to know almost exactly how many Pups there are, go here
<https://archive.org/details/puppylinux>. That repository (at
Archive[dot]org, no less!) is maintained by a Puppian (as we call
ourselves) who goes by the handle *ally*. There are some very old Pups not
in there, but by and large it's *mostly* complete.

The official Puppy forum is here <http://murga-linux.com/puppy/index.php>.

While Puppy is almost exclusively x86, there is one currently-maintained
ARM port, called FatDogARM. (Anything ending in -Dog like that, is not
technically Puppy but a highly related species... like a dog vs a fox.) My
understanding is that it's a little challenging to set up and get running,
but that, otherwise, it's fairly current and fairly functional -- we're not
as evolved as say Debian or Ubuntu, you know... Puppy is like a "24 Hours
of LeMons" car -- yes, LeM*o*ns not LeM*a*ns, look it up -- it's kind of
clunky, and it's all sorts of ugly on the inside (and sometimes the outside
as well) -- but it runs, and it's fun to drive, and it *will* get you there
-- you'll be a bit bruised if you're not careful, but you'll be there
nonetheless.

If anyone on the list about Puppy that the preceding Shakespearean-length
soliloquy ( :P ) did not answer -- fire away, I can *probably* give a
meaningful response.

Also -- sorry, Luke, for another off-topic lecture.

On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 11:58 PM, Alexander Ross <
maillist_arm-netbook at aross.me> wrote:

> oh i should mention that my knowledge of enlightenment is that, it
> specialed in running on low end computers = not much in the way of
> graphics yet still providing a shiny interface. the sort of hardware
> puppy (gnu/)linux runs on these days (laptops from the mid-late 2000s
> to current) for example
>
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