[Arm-netbook] Adapteva Parallella: Thoughts?

Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl at lkcl.net
Thu Dec 29 00:44:33 GMT 2016


On Thursday, December 29, 2016, Andrew M.A. Cater <
amacater at galactic.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 07:20:05AM +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> wrote:
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> > On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 7:02 AM, John Luke Gibson <eaterjolly at gmail.com
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> > > Obviously it's been mentioned before, since it's on the <a
> > > href=http://rhombus-tech.net/adapteva/>wiki</a>.
> > > There isn't much information on the page however.
> > > The core doesn't work standalone, however it is completely open with
> > > an HDL and a schematic; it is in the direction that a puristic libre
> > > system would be if not "technically" all the way there. The board
> > > itself has both(I think?) an arm and a x86 on board, simply because
> > > adapteva is too new to have enough libraries ported for a full os (I
> > > think?).
> > > Now their boards are $99 which is a jump from $40, so my question
> > > would be was price differential the reason why it wasn't included or
> > > where there too many compatibility/tooling issues?
> >
> >  i believe i spoke to them (it may have been a different company), if
> > i recall correctly (which i probably don't) their core PCB (which they
> > haven't released) is 12-layer, which means "insanely expensive to
> > produce".
> >
> >  mostly it's down to practicality of cost, and time.  if people offer
> > to *pay* for these boards to be made, i'll get them done, no problem.
> >
>
> Lovely board, lots of potential - but no community because it's hard
> to program the fast cores - lots of low level C programming to make
> best use of it, though someone did do a GNURadio port for Google
> Summer of Code a while back
>
> I was a Kickstarter backer - but chickened out of the significant
> porting effort needed. The orignal Kickstarter board came without
> significant heatsinking so needed extra fan cooling. There was
> an Ubuntu port for it - and it would probably run Debian with no
> huge problem - armhf.
>
> It's an ARM, FPGA and then however many Epiphany cores - Anders
> Olofssen (? spelling ?) built his ideal system for signal
> processing tasks because he couldn't find the necessary for his
> Ph.D - the paraphrase on lack of community is from his site.
>
> Ericsson and others have, however, funded additional R&D so
> they've got to 1024 core boards. Really useful for a compact
> supercomputer / specialist 5G hardware but fairly tough
> for pretty much everybody else to get a toehold because the
> initial learning curve is non-trivial.
>
>
thats interesting. i worked for aspex semi in 2003 and they had the exact
same problem, programming ultra parallel devices is limited to a few
hundred competent people in the entire world.


interesting to me because ericsson bought aspex.



> Andy C.
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