[Arm-netbook] Linus wingeing about ARM

Gordan Bobic gordan at bobich.net
Fri Oct 12 10:24:31 BST 2012


On 10/12/2012 09:44 AM, Alain Williams wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 09:38:10AM +0200, Henrik Nordström wrote:
>> fre 2012-10-12 klockan 07:58 +0100 skrev luke.leighton:
>>
>>>   wishing that to happen does not make it happen, especially when SoC
>>> vendors do not communicate with upstream and repeatedly copy rather
>>> than consolidate.
>>
>> There is a shift taking place there as well, with most major SoC vendors
>> actively working on getting things mainline, some even before cunsumer
>> release.
>> ....
>
> Maybe this is something that Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross can talk about when
> he meets an ARM Senior manager. He said that he did not have a lot of time but
> it can be reduced to a simple meme along the lines:
>
>      Encourage your licensees to keep their Cortex designs built in a way that
>      helps software people (like the Linux kernel) reuse as much code across all
>      of your licensees chips. This will reduce bugs, speed development and so
>      reduce costs. Maybe ARM could have an engineer or two help coordinate
>      licensees.
>
>      If software is more compatible across licesees it should lead to greater use
>      of ARM chips.
>
> The technical details probably dont matter when speaking to the manager, but it
> would help if they could be described on 1 side of A4.
>
> (See email thread Subject: I Have An Possible Chance To Meet An ARM Senior Manager
>
>      http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/pipermail/arm-netbook/2012-October/005795.html
>
> )

Seems to me the ideal way forward would be that if they licence people 
to use the ARM instruction set and designs, they must also include a 
standardised boot mechanism. This may be hard to to retrospectively, but 
putting that requirement in for every future licence would solve the 
problem for at least the future cores.

Gordan



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