[Arm-netbook] proyect easy pc

Sat Mar 24 07:52:47 GMT 2012

Hi Hugo

very interesting project
what is your target release price? timeframe to complete this project?
Also I see you are attracted to use EOMA68 as there is anouncement for $15
BOM, but I can't see what is the sell price of EOMA68 ? i.e. the price of
the BOM is just part of the final price of one device, there should be also
provisions for the assembly, test, pack, some NREs for compliance tests,
etc.
Luke, I do wonder if you have pre-estimations: if EOMA68 is manufactured in
xxx quantity you can buy it from us for $yyy if you buy zzz modules at a
time.
So far I found somewhere on the web one to state that A10 cost $5 for
million pcs order, Luke said in e-mail to me that this $7 price he put on
the web in the BOM is based on 500 000 pcs per month prognosis, If I search
through independent disti I got twice than this price for 1000 pcs i.e. the
processor price for 1000 pcs is close to the BOM $15 price quoted.

we work on similar project with iMX233 the goal is to make small linux
computer which to be easy to reproduce and hack some mix of linux computer
and arduino, I was interested in A10 but the price for small quantity is
about same as iMX535 which I can get with registered project to Freescale.
And If I have to do comparison with the development resources A10 lose big
time, the only documents so far I got for A10 is datasheet with 75 pages
which just say which ball what function have and all electrical parameters
with TBD values :-) no word for register and peripherial initializations,
it may work for companies which just do blind copy and paste of the EVK
schematic and use the existing linux images to build tablet PC or TV box,
but not serious if one decide to make development platform which people to
be able to improve and hack.

Best regards
Tsvetan

2012/3/23 hugo meneses <hugalactico at hotmail.com>

>
> Hi guys
>
> I will try to resume my project goals, what i have done until now and what
> can of help i am looking for...:)
>
> I has been an old computers-videogames collector and like how old machines
> like conmodore 64 and spectrum popularize the computers in the western
> world, those were relative cheap machines and very convenient to use (just
> conect to any tv set). I was born in colombia southamerica and i know there
> are many schools and small towns where is not easy for childs to have acces
> to a computer.
>
> I work in a chinese electronics assembly factory and already have
> experience assembling and selling mp3 , mp4 and some mobile phones, now we
> start to think about assemble tv boxes. After see the chinese tv boxes i
> ask my self why not sell these kind of machines to the third world like
> small computers, make good quality, little profit and sell as many as
> possible?
>
> In china we and many assembly factories work like this, the cpu company
> sell the cpus to the solution company, the solution company sell to the
> factories the cpus, designs, pcb, bom list, software, etc. If you are a
> small factory you buy the PCBA (mainboard already assembled), if you have
> more experience, you do the SMT yourself. But anyways who design everything
> is the solution company and the factories just assembly and change small
> things.
>
> the main problem is that now the solution companies make a very big profit
> on the design of the mainboard and sell the cpu, if we just do like this
> the small computer we want to make will be expensive for the less developed
> countries market. Also these companies are really relax about the quality
> and you will find the software they make whit a lot of bugs and almost zero
> support, also some very odd design choices(extrange conectors, things no
> standar).
>
> After i see the website about your proyect, the people involved and the
> bom cost i think is better try to work whit you than whit the solution
> companies here.
>
> What we want to produce is a small , cheap and power efficient arm machine
> that can connect to a standar tv set or vga computer screen because in
> southamerican countries these are cheap and easy to find second hand, also
> if you import it like one computer you do not need to pay tax. The machine
> also must support android system(easy to find educational software and
> games), flash player (for online games and video), linux as option, must
> have LAN port and also wifi (when you buy internet access the router is
> free, also the wifi board only add 2 usd ), at least have 2 usb ports,
> optional support for usb gamepads and webcams.
>
> Also need to find the support of the open source comunity for write some
> educational software and games.
>
>  I already have some money for start the project, logistic in shenzhen,
> experience dealing whit chinese suppliers and factories, 3 shops in
> shenzhen electronics market and overseas customers for distribute in South
> america and south asia.
>
> Even the main idea is to help spread computers to less developed countries
> also the idea is make some profit but as you know the profits we make in
> chine are really small :)
>
> I am ready to listen your ideas about how we can cooperate, can be a
> partnership, sponsorship or whatever way we see suitable, i am ready to
> start as fast as we ultimate details.
>
> thanks and best regards!  hugo
>
>
>
>
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