[Arm-netbook] OpenPOWER virtual coffee continues every Tuesday UTC 22:00

Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl at lkcl.net
Wed Oct 7 18:59:11 BST 2020


On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 6:49 PM Hendrik Boom <hendrik at topoi.pooq.com> wrote:

> If you want Mate and do not want systemd, you could start with Devuan and
> install mate as a package.

the downside of devuan is how far they diverged from debian (global
search/replace debian on *everything*).  this means that if you want
to use debian/testing - say you are a developer and that makes
debian/testing absolutely essential - you're absolutely screwed
because the small devuan team absolutely do not have the resources to
keep the entire debian/testing repo converted and rebuilt absolutely
every single day 24x7 with the "global/search/replace" system they
created.

if they had done it as an "add-on" to the debian repository it would
have been fine, but the fact that they chose a "backlash" path meant
that they've completely isolated themselves and their community from
the rest of debian.

l.



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