From zapper at disroot.org Mon Mar 2 15:40:25 2020 From: zapper at disroot.org (zap) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 10:40:25 -0500 Subject: [Arm-netbook] Is everything okay? Message-ID: <0895085c-7133-18d4-5bc1-fdb6f5f99fc5@disroot.org> haven't seen updates for a while and I wondered if its still being released, the eoma68 laptop. :/ I would appreciate some updates you know. If its okay. Sorry, if this sounds demanding, I am sure your running into your share of barriers. From lkcl at lkcl.net Mon Mar 2 16:21:30 2020 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 16:21:30 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] Is everything okay? In-Reply-To: <0895085c-7133-18d4-5bc1-fdb6f5f99fc5@disroot.org> References: <0895085c-7133-18d4-5bc1-fdb6f5f99fc5@disroot.org> Message-ID: just done one. getting sent out today. On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 3:40 PM zap wrote: > > haven't seen updates for a while and I wondered if its still being > released, the eoma68 laptop. :/ > > > I would appreciate some updates you know. If its okay. > > > Sorry, if this sounds demanding, I am sure your running into your share > of barriers. > > > _______________________________________________ > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook at lists.phcomp.co.uk > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to arm-netbook at files.phcomp.co.uk From zapper at disroot.org Mon Mar 2 16:31:18 2020 From: zapper at disroot.org (zap) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 11:31:18 -0500 Subject: [Arm-netbook] Is everything okay? In-Reply-To: References: <0895085c-7133-18d4-5bc1-fdb6f5f99fc5@disroot.org> Message-ID: On 03/02/2020 11:21 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > just done one. getting sent out today. Cool glad to hear it! > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 3:40 PM zap wrote: >> haven't seen updates for a while and I wondered if its still being >> released, the eoma68 laptop. :/ >> >> >> I would appreciate some updates you know. If its okay. >> >> >> Sorry, if this sounds demanding, I am sure your running into your share >> of barriers. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook at lists.phcomp.co.uk >> http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook >> Send large attachments to arm-netbook at files.phcomp.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook at lists.phcomp.co.uk > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to arm-netbook at files.phcomp.co.uk From doark at mail.com Mon Mar 2 18:38:26 2020 From: doark at mail.com (David Niklas) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 13:38:26 -0500 Subject: [Arm-netbook] Is everything okay? In-Reply-To: References: <0895085c-7133-18d4-5bc1-fdb6f5f99fc5@disroot.org> Message-ID: <20200302133826.4d9845cb@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 11:31:18 -0500 zap wrote: > On 03/02/2020 11:21 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > just done one. getting sent out today. > Cool glad to hear it! You mean you're in mass production now?! Are you using the 3D printer you were designing? Congratulations, David From maillist_arm-netbook at aross.me Mon Mar 2 19:08:24 2020 From: maillist_arm-netbook at aross.me (Alexander Ross) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 19:08:24 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] Is everything okay? In-Reply-To: <20200302133826.4d9845cb@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> References: <0895085c-7133-18d4-5bc1-fdb6f5f99fc5@disroot.org> <20200302133826.4d9845cb@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> Message-ID: <289c0a8f-0d43-b133-3598-de8ccfff4014@aross.me> On 02/03/2020 6:38 pm, David Niklas wrote: > You mean you're in mass production now? campaign update, i thought he means. From doark at mail.com Mon Mar 2 19:24:17 2020 From: doark at mail.com (David Niklas) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 14:24:17 -0500 Subject: [Arm-netbook] Is everything okay? In-Reply-To: <289c0a8f-0d43-b133-3598-de8ccfff4014@aross.me> References: <0895085c-7133-18d4-5bc1-fdb6f5f99fc5@disroot.org> <20200302133826.4d9845cb@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> <289c0a8f-0d43-b133-3598-de8ccfff4014@aross.me> Message-ID: <20200302142418.5a833f3f@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 19:08:24 +0000 Alexander Ross wrote: > On 02/03/2020 6:38 pm, David Niklas wrote: > > You mean you're in mass production now? > > campaign update, i thought he means. Oh! Yes, my mistake. ( laughs at self ). David From lkcl at lkcl.net Mon Mar 2 20:22:27 2020 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 20:22:27 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] Is everything okay? In-Reply-To: References: <0895085c-7133-18d4-5bc1-fdb6f5f99fc5@disroot.org> Message-ID: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/updates/coronavirus-and-a-plan-for-pcb-testing l. From paul at boddie.org.uk Mon Mar 2 20:41:30 2020 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2020 21:41:30 +0100 Subject: [Arm-netbook] Is everything okay? In-Reply-To: References: <0895085c-7133-18d4-5bc1-fdb6f5f99fc5@disroot.org> Message-ID: <7365862.9nLSTCvh2C@jeremy> On Monday 2. March 2020 20.22.27 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/updates/coronavirus-and-a-plan-for-pcb-testing Thanks once again for keeping us up-to-date! And more important than that, to hear the personal side of things, people looking after one another, and so on. Paul From lkcl at lkcl.net Wed Mar 4 21:50:54 2020 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 21:50:54 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] $ available: python programmers needed on LibreSOC Message-ID: hi folks i need some help with the chip layout, it would particularly well suit a student or someone needing part time income. the actual layout is quite straightfoward to do, if you have ever done PCB Layout it is pretty much exactly that... except it is done as a *python* program. you call a *function* to place an adder block, rather than use a GUI, and then view the results *in* a GUI in order to review them. here is one of the experiments, which will need significant tidying up: https://git.libre-riscv.org/?p=soclayout.git;a=blob;f=experiments5/doAlu16.py;h=fa37bd8ce31896ebc6e2ed75049b476594603b93;hb=HEAD it is however "functional" and demonstrates the principle of routing smaller blocks then placing them and routing the larger block. this hierarchy needs to be about 2 maybe 3 levels deep, around 100 "blocks" which will need careful discussion. no *actual* "hardware" experience is required, it is simply "call this function to put stuff here, call the routing function, save the file, move on to the next block". anyone interested or know anyone who might be, do get in touch or pass this on to them. thx! l. -- --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 From doark at mail.com Thu Mar 5 03:43:20 2020 From: doark at mail.com (David Niklas) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 22:43:20 -0500 Subject: [Arm-netbook] Could you explain the details of the 3D mesa driver you need? Message-ID: <20200304224320.5c3401f1@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> Dear luke, I've been very curious about this, but I've waited until you were stuck in some place before asking so as not to busy you. I'm not arrogant enough to say I'll create the 3D mesa driver or even go beyond theorizing, but I'm very eager to learn. 1. How do we know when it works? Is there HW or an emulator system we can use? 2. How do we know it's fast enough? What do we benchmark it with? 3. What exact APIs do you want implemented? 4. Do you want it in assembly with C and/or C++ bindings or in one or both of C/C++? 5. Are there any special assembly instructions that this will need? If there's anything else you think would be useful, do tell. Thanks, David From lkcl at lkcl.net Thu Mar 5 04:02:03 2020 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 04:02:03 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] Could you explain the details of the 3D mesa driver you need? In-Reply-To: <20200304224320.5c3401f1@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> References: <20200304224320.5c3401f1@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 3:43 AM David Niklas wrote: > Dear luke, > I've been very curious about this, but I've waited until you were stuck in > some place before asking so as not to busy you. > I'm not arrogant enough to say I'll create the 3D mesa driver or even go > beyond theorizing, but I'm very eager to learn. > > 1. How do we know when it works? it passes the khronos vulkan compliance test suite. > Is there HW or an emulator system we can > use? read the full thread. it's all there. https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2019-September/223578.html http://lists.libre-riscv.org/pipermail/libre-riscv-dev/2020-January/003302.html https://libre-riscv.org/nlnet_proposals/ https://libre-riscv.org/nlnet_2019_amdvlk_port/ http://bugs.libre-riscv.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140 yes, all of those - the answers are there. sorry. 4am. l. From cvs268 at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 08:52:23 2020 From: cvs268 at gmail.com (CVS) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 14:22:23 +0530 Subject: [Arm-netbook] $ available: python programmers needed on LibreSOC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Luke, This activity sounds interesting to me. I have been playing with Python3 for the past couple of years. To begin with, i can spend a weekend or 2 on this, and document whatever gets done. > this hierarchy needs to be about 2 maybe 3 levels deep, around 100 "blocks" > which will need careful discussion. Are the notes of such a discussion already available somewhere for review? > no *actual* "hardware" experience is required, it is simply "call this > function to put stuff here, call the routing function, save the file, move > on to the next block". Cool. So, what are the inputs available to start? > https://git.libre-riscv.org/?p=soclayout.git;a=blob;f=experiments5/doAlu16.py Most of the heavy-lifting appears to be done by the Hurricane package. Where can i find out more about this package? regards CVS From cvs268 at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 09:19:31 2020 From: cvs268 at gmail.com (CVS) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 14:49:31 +0530 Subject: [Arm-netbook] $ available: python programmers needed on LibreSOC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > https://git.libre-riscv.org/?p=soclayout.git;a=blob;f=experiments5/doAlu16.py > Most of the heavy-lifting appears to be done by the Hurricane package. > Where can i find out more about this package? Looks like this is it https://libre-riscv.org/HDL_workflow/coriolis2/ Found a User Guide to set it up https://www-soc.lip6.fr/fileadmin/user_upload/soc/softwares/coriolis/UsersGuide.pdf Trying it out now... regards CVS From lkcl at lkcl.net Thu Mar 5 11:33:16 2020 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 11:33:16 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] $ available: python programmers needed on LibreSOC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 9:20 AM CVS wrote: > > > > https://git.libre-riscv.org/?p=soclayout.git;a=blob;f=experiments5/doAlu16.py > > Most of the heavy-lifting appears to be done by the Hurricane package. > > Where can i find out more about this package? > Looks like this is it > https://libre-riscv.org/HDL_workflow/coriolis2/ yes, that's the main "setup" page. > Found a User Guide to set it up > https://www-soc.lip6.fr/fileadmin/user_upload/soc/softwares/coriolis/UsersGuide.pdf please do follow the procedure on the wiki page (the debootstrap-chroot) because we need "repeatability". this is critically important, that everyone involved uses *exactly* the same tools and libraries. the chip layout produced by the scripts *absolutely has* to be repeatable (hence, jock, why GUIs are not used for this in the industry, only as a "viewer"). although, *sigh*, i am going to have to redo it to use debian/10, see http://bugs.libre-riscv.org/show_bug.cgi?id=178 here's the top-level bugreport: http://bugs.libre-riscv.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138#c0 other things: * https://libre-riscv.org/charter/ * http://lists.libre-riscv.org/mailman/listinfo * https://libre-riscv.org/HDL_workflow/ * https://libre-riscv.org/nlnet/ so, first things first: do review those, read the charter, join the mailing list, introduce yourself to everyone, and let us know - on the list - if you're happy with the charter or have any questions. thanks! l. From doark at mail.com Mon Mar 9 22:15:48 2020 From: doark at mail.com (David Niklas) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 18:15:48 -0400 Subject: [Arm-netbook] How about an opensource nuclear reactor? Message-ID: <20200309181548.58e5a612@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> Dear luke, Such a project might not be ligament (I'm not a physicist), but people seem to be taking it seriously. As of this writing 2 of the files are still missing "PRIMARY LOOP" and "STEAM TURBINE". https://www.open-100.com/ David From laserhawk64 at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 23:25:45 2020 From: laserhawk64 at gmail.com (Christopher Havel) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 19:25:45 -0400 Subject: [Arm-netbook] How about an opensource nuclear reactor? In-Reply-To: <20200309181548.58e5a612@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> References: <20200309181548.58e5a612@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> Message-ID: LOL. That's not going to last a hot minute. Any country worth its salt has very strong laws on the books prohibiting this sort of thing, because of what can happen very easily if you don't get it exactly right. Even universities and research labs and the like, even if they're *part* of the government, have to get special permission to touch that stuff... nuclear anything is not something to be taken lightly, and enough important people know that so that it's regulated *incredibly* tightly. I'm told that if you have nuke clearance with the US gov't, for example, the US Military has to know *exactly* where you are at all times, as in, if you need to use a portapotty they just about want the serial # off the side of the box, and what second of what minute you went in and came back out. Yikes. There was a kid a few decades ago who tried to do up a civvie reactor on his own, some years ago, here in the US. I'm not sure what state... he got a lot of press at the time, and a book later on, but the press has newer, bigger things to deal with right now and I never bought the book and it was quite some time ago anyways. That said... apparently he got ahold of a truly insane number of smoke detectors without his parents noticing, and got enough Americium-241 together as a result (juuuuust barely) to get a reaction going. Put the whole thing together in a backyard shed, literally. He got found out pretty quickly, though, because he either hadn't studied enough or was too inept otherwise, to realize that he had to freaking *cool* this monstrosity... it was apparently something of an IR beacon, on the intensity level of gazing point-blank into a carbon-arc searchlamp... ooooops! I'm not sure what wound up happening to him, but I can't imagine it was as simple as "okay we're taking this away and don't do it again" ;) Cops generally aren't that nice... especially with things that are issues both of public safety and national security at the same time, like he had conjured up... But yeah that's how *that* went. On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 6:16 PM David Niklas wrote: > Dear luke, > > Such a project might not be ligament (I'm not a physicist), but people > seem to be taking it seriously. > As of this writing 2 of the files are still missing "PRIMARY LOOP" and > "STEAM TURBINE". > > https://www.open-100.com/ > > David > > _______________________________________________ > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook at lists.phcomp.co.uk > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to arm-netbook at files.phcomp.co.uk From lkcl at lkcl.net Tue Mar 10 00:07:44 2020 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 00:07:44 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] How about an opensource nuclear reactor? In-Reply-To: <20200309181548.58e5a612@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> References: <20200309181548.58e5a612@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> Message-ID: On Monday, March 9, 2020, David Niklas wrote: > Dear luke, > > Such a project might not be ligament (I'm not a physicist), but people > seem to be taking it seriously. > As of this writing 2 of the files are still missing "PRIMARY LOOP" and > "STEAM TURBINE". > > https://www.open-100.com/ 100 megawatt. err.. where do you source the uranium or plutonium? err..... -- --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 From zapper at disroot.org Tue Mar 10 01:57:20 2020 From: zapper at disroot.org (zap) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 21:57:20 -0400 Subject: [Arm-netbook] How about an opensource nuclear reactor? In-Reply-To: References: <20200309181548.58e5a612@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> Message-ID: <4fb48ece-117e-04ac-08f3-89b99db39342@disroot.org> On 03/09/2020 08:07 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Monday, March 9, 2020, David Niklas wrote: > >> Dear luke, >> >> Such a project might not be ligament (I'm not a physicist), but people >> seem to be taking it seriously. >> As of this writing 2 of the files are still missing "PRIMARY LOOP" and >> "STEAM TURBINE". >> >> https://www.open-100.com/ > > 100 megawatt. err.. where do you source the uranium or plutonium? > > err..... > > > > > I assume you are joking... I mean it is against the law in many countries to even have uranium if your not the government, etc... some things are made of uranium that cause a lot of damage and trust me it wouldn't be a blast at all! pun intended... From laserhawk64 at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 02:00:19 2020 From: laserhawk64 at gmail.com (Christopher Havel) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 22:00:19 -0400 Subject: [Arm-netbook] How about an opensource nuclear reactor? In-Reply-To: <4fb48ece-117e-04ac-08f3-89b99db39342@disroot.org> References: <20200309181548.58e5a612@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> <4fb48ece-117e-04ac-08f3-89b99db39342@disroot.org> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 9:57 PM zap some things are made of uranium that cause a lot of damage and trust me > it wouldn't be a blast at all! > > pun intended... > earth_shattering_kaboom.gif ;) > From doark at mail.com Tue Mar 10 03:02:30 2020 From: doark at mail.com (David Niklas) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 23:02:30 -0400 Subject: [Arm-netbook] How about an opensource nuclear reactor? In-Reply-To: References: <20200309181548.58e5a612@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> Message-ID: <20200309230230.3c1ec38b@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 00:07:44 +0000 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Monday, March 9, 2020, David Niklas wrote: > > > Dear luke, > > > > Such a project might not be ligament (I'm not a physicist), but people > > seem to be taking it seriously. > > As of this writing 2 of the files are still missing "PRIMARY LOOP" and > > "STEAM TURBINE". > > > > https://www.open-100.com/ > > > 100 megawatt. err.. where do you source the uranium or plutonium? > > err..... > AFAIK, you buy it from the US gov. in the USA. For other countries you may have to trade to obtain some as not every country produces their own. David From paul at boddie.org.uk Tue Mar 10 22:02:56 2020 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 23:02:56 +0100 Subject: [Arm-netbook] How about an opensource nuclear reactor? In-Reply-To: <20200309230230.3c1ec38b@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> References: <20200309181548.58e5a612@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> <20200309230230.3c1ec38b@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> Message-ID: <29886215.aS8SygCjPc@jeremy> On Monday 9. March 2020 23.02.30 David Niklas wrote: > On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 00:07:44 +0000 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > > > 100 megawatt. err.. where do you source the uranium or plutonium? > > > > err..... > > AFAIK, you buy it from the US gov. in the USA. For other countries you > may have to trade to obtain some as not every country produces their own. In other words, you either have to be on a list or get yourself onto a list. One of those kinds of list isn't the kind you want to be on. And the uranium and plutonium is on a different kind of list altogether, but that's the reason for those other lists. :-) Meanwhile, some related reading just came up: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200309-are-small-nuclear-power-plants-safe-and-efficient I guess we're all on someone's recommended reading list. Paul From doark at mail.com Wed Mar 11 01:11:50 2020 From: doark at mail.com (David Niklas) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 21:11:50 -0400 Subject: [Arm-netbook] How about an opensource nuclear reactor? In-Reply-To: <29886215.aS8SygCjPc@jeremy> References: <20200309181548.58e5a612@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> <20200309230230.3c1ec38b@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> <29886215.aS8SygCjPc@jeremy> Message-ID: <20200310211150.73b36825@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 23:02:56 +0100 Paul Boddie wrote: > On Monday 9. March 2020 23.02.30 David Niklas wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 00:07:44 +0000 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > wrote: > > > > > > 100 megawatt. err.. where do you source the uranium or plutonium? > > > > > > err..... > > > > AFAIK, you buy it from the US gov. in the USA. For other countries you > > may have to trade to obtain some as not every country produces their > > own. > > In other words, you either have to be on a list or get yourself onto a > list. One of those kinds of list isn't the kind you want to be on. And > the uranium and plutonium is on a different kind of list altogether, > but that's the reason for those other lists. :-) > > Meanwhile, some related reading just came up: > > https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200309-are-small-nuclear-power-plants-safe-and-efficient > > I guess we're all on someone's recommended reading list. > > Paul I had to respond to this: "Some are arguing that nuclear power just can’t compete as renewable prices plummet." That's such wrong headed thinking! The competition of "green solutions" is not about pricing, it's about getting more energy and less pollution out of a device then you have to put into manufacture, fuel, and recycle it. For wind: "In January of 2015, wind speeds remained 20 to 45 percent below normal on areas of the west coast..." https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/09/03/205217/slowing-wind-energy-production-suffers-from-lack-of-wind Now they're cheering that wind speeds are almost back to normal, having gone up 37%: https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-50464551 And the more resistance to wind you have (like turbines), the less wind that there is. As these things age they produce less power due to lack of maintenance and then they need decommissioning: https://www.energycentral.com/news/retiring-worn-out-wind-turbines-could-cost-billions-nobody-has In general: We seem to be short on resources for producing the favorite renewable solutions: https://www.metabolic.nl/publication/metal-demand-for-renewable-electricity-generation-in-the-netherlands/ For solar: Panels require recycling and currently, they're just polluting the landscapes for the most part: https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/25/18018820/solar-panel-waste-chemicals-energy-environment-recycling https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2014/11/141111-solar-panel-manufacturing-sustainability-ranking/ I also remember solar panels requiring more power to manufacture plus recycle then they produce in their lifetime, but I can't find the article. A cleaner solution: With nuclear being a much less toxic problem comparatively: http://environmentalprogress.org/big-news/2017/6/21/are-we-headed-for-a-solar-waste-crisis If it boils down to pricing, then we're doomed from an environmental perspective. David From lkcl at lkcl.net Wed Mar 11 02:00:19 2020 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 02:00:19 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] How about an opensource nuclear reactor? In-Reply-To: <29886215.aS8SygCjPc@jeremy> References: <20200309181548.58e5a612@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> <20200309230230.3c1ec38b@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> <29886215.aS8SygCjPc@jeremy> Message-ID: On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, Paul Boddie wrote: > > Meanwhile, some related reading just came up: > > https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200309-are-small- > nuclear-power-plants-safe-and-efficient > > Many of the SMR designs in development simply shrink the systems of large-scale nuclear plants, using less fuel. Nuscale’s reactor will be just 76 feet (23 metres) high. um... i fail to see how that is considered "portable" :) I guess we're all on someone's recommended reading list. wave hello to them over the fence and smile enthusiastically. :) l. -- --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 From phil at hands.com Wed Mar 11 07:05:10 2020 From: phil at hands.com (Philip Hands) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 08:05:10 +0100 Subject: [Arm-netbook] How about an opensource nuclear reactor? In-Reply-To: References: <20200309181548.58e5a612@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> Message-ID: <87v9nbcqxl.fsf@hands.com> Christopher Havel writes: ... > There was a kid a few decades ago who tried to do up a civvie reactor on > his own, some years ago, here in the US. I'm not sure what state... Here you go: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/eagle-scout-nuclear-reactor/ Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/ http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg, GERMANY From boris.barbour at ens.fr Wed Mar 11 22:00:07 2020 From: boris.barbour at ens.fr (Boris BARBOUR) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 23:00:07 +0100 Subject: [Arm-netbook] EU directive on "right to repair" Message-ID: <53938738-5bc6-6059-4ae1-80b8677d3b30@ens.fr> Subscribers of this list may find this of interest: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/eu-brings-in-right-to-repair-rules-for-phones-and-tablets From lkcl at lkcl.net Wed Mar 11 22:57:21 2020 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 22:57:21 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] EU directive on "right to repair" In-Reply-To: <53938738-5bc6-6059-4ae1-80b8677d3b30@ens.fr> References: <53938738-5bc6-6059-4ae1-80b8677d3b30@ens.fr> Message-ID: On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, Boris BARBOUR wrote: > > Subscribers of this list may find this of interest: > > https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/eu-brings- > in-right-to-repair-rules-for-phones-and-tablets funny that.. hmm a modular computer that the full CAD files were available, that woukd be great, eh? l. -- --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 From doark at mail.com Thu Mar 12 01:03:08 2020 From: doark at mail.com (David Niklas) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 21:03:08 -0400 Subject: [Arm-netbook] EU directive on "right to repair" In-Reply-To: References: <53938738-5bc6-6059-4ae1-80b8677d3b30@ens.fr> Message-ID: <20200311210308.2fabcbeb@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 22:57:21 +0000 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, Boris BARBOUR > wrote: > > > > > Subscribers of this list may find this of interest: > > > > https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/eu-brings- > > in-right-to-repair-rules-for-phones-and-tablets > > > funny that.. hmm a modular computer that the full CAD files were > available, that woukd be great, eh? > > l. > Gee, I wonder what kind of a hair brained idiot would create such a thing... Do you think that there's someone on this list we could talk into doing this? rofl David From doark at mail.com Thu Mar 26 15:34:57 2020 From: doark at mail.com (David Niklas) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 11:34:57 -0400 Subject: [Arm-netbook] Deja vu Message-ID: <20200326113457.3ca207bb@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> Hi luke, Linus (not Torvalds), mentions every project but yours when discussing this "lap dock", a laptop without internals to which you dock a device, such as a phone, or raspberry PI. It's known as the Nextdock2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIJAEcOL6sI It never ceases to amaze me how many copies of your project I come upon online. I almost think it is a great idea. :D Sincerely, David From lkcl at lkcl.net Thu Mar 26 16:48:35 2020 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 16:48:35 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] Deja vu In-Reply-To: <20200326113457.3ca207bb@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> References: <20200326113457.3ca207bb@Phenom-II-x6.niklas.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 3:36 PM David Niklas wrote: > > Hi luke, > Linus (not Torvalds), mentions every project but yours when discussing > this "lap dock", a laptop without internals to which you dock a device, > such as a phone, or raspberry PI. It's known as the Nextdock2. yep, heard of it. > It never ceases to amaze me how many copies of your project I come upon > online. I almost think it is a great idea. :D :)