[Arm-netbook] Should we support libre.computer's efforts at promoting lima?

David Niklas doark at mail.com
Fri Oct 19 03:14:46 BST 2018


On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 06:52:20 +0100
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl at lkcl.net> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 6:46 AM Bill Kontos <vkontogpls at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > There are dozens of arm sbs right now that are crippled mainly due to
> > Mali graphics. A lot of them would be very useful for stuff that e.g.
> > the rpi doesn't do like cheap nas. Just saying.  
> 
>  yes, i agree.   the thing is... *sigh*... percentage-wise, the people
> you're referring to (those that would actually put arm SBCs to
> different purposes) are an absolutely tiny fraction of the overall
> market.  an important *strategic* fraction, nonetheless.
> 
>  the lesson there is one from HTC's products absolutely tanking after
> they neglected to listen to a tiny vocal minority on strategic
> (high-prominence) forums like xda-developers.com.  when going to "buy
> product", anyone *not* technical of course does a google search.  if
> the high-ranking google pages, not controlled by HTC, are filled with
> complaints "this product is shit!  it doesn't have a keyboard like our
> favourite predecessor does!!!" then the non-techies aren't gonna
> buy...
> 
>  and it's the same here.  so... yes, reverse-engineering MALI will
> have a much larger strategic impact on purchases of ARM-based products
> than people realise...
> 
>  and that's what deeply concerns me: by raising USD $1m, this campaign
> is empowering ARM to continue in their highly and deeply unethical
> behaviour, such as fucking with libv's livelihood.

The light dawns in my head!!!

Thanks luke, that *really* explained your objections to an OSS mali
driver!




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