[Arm-netbook] severe systemd bugs (two of them)

Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl at lkcl.net
Mon Jul 3 10:06:06 BST 2017


On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Bill Kontos <vkontogpls at gmail.com> wrote:

> much variance. And yet people keep breaking abis and support the idea
> of multiple inits that do the same thing in slightly different ways
> requiring the maintenance of multiple init scripts over and over
> again.

 when i was looking at taking over maintenance of depinit one of the
first tasks was to add full automated compatibility for initscripts.
signiicant advantages of depinit were lost in the process but there
was no loss when compared to sysvinit itself.  individual initscripts
could then be replaced to provide a much better way of handling
services (safe_mysqld for example could be dispensed with entirely).

 even with that in mind i see no down-side to the additional workload
that you refer to when you consider the upside that diversity brings.
no monoculture, no centralised control, and a need for people managing
*different* projects - the components that systemd has [irresponsibly]
made quotes redundant quotes - to communicate, discuss and agree
interoperable standards.

 the abdication of responsibility by all distros has taken away the
opportunity for diverse and disparate teams to work together, shunting
aside all the safeguards that are normally in place and allowing
lennart pottering and his team to arbitrarily and unilaterally decide
how GNU/Linux should work.

 this, then, primarily is what i do not understand that people do not
understand.

l.



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