[Arm-netbook] Logging and journaling

Russell Hyer russell.hyer at gmail.com
Thu Feb 9 17:29:01 GMT 2017


thanks for raising this issue Luke

On 9 February 2017 at 17:21, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl at lkcl.net> wrote:
> ---
> crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Julie Marchant <onpon4 at riseup.net> wrote:
>> On 02/09/2017 11:45 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>>>  (2) putting on angband.pl's nosystemd repositories.  this is "hard
>>> work" for me to both set up, and for others to remove (revert) just as
>>> you say, so i am unlikely to do it... but it's an option.
>>
>>>   for my laptop i'm using angband.pl's nosystemd, which is not kept
>>> up-to-date with security updates
>>
>> Luke, for the love of God and for your own sake, please do not
>> distribute something to your customers that doesn't receive reliable
>> security updates
>
>  i will not be distributing something that doesn't receive reliable
> security updates.  i appreciate you raising this, it's important.
>
>  ah.  i see where you got the misimpression from.  *angband.pl* does
> not keep up to date with security updates.  however that is my
> personal laptop.  i would not recommend *to anyone* that they follow
> (qty 1000 or 10,000) what i use for my *personal* laptop.  it's a
> highly complex and comprehensive specialist setup.
>
>
>>  because of your personal preferences. If someone's
>> machine gets compromised because of this, it will tarnish your
>> reputation. Remember your target audience: they're not the type of
>> people to go into a command-line and do...
>
>  then what i might do instead is get debian-installer set up instead.
> i cannot and will not give something to people that i know will cause
> them pain or distress, even if they don't understand it.
>
>  lots of possibilities, and some time to think about them.
>
>  bob's definition of "an ethical act" applies here, so if anyone else
> can think of something that we've missed, so that it becomes possible
> (as best we can) to come up with a solution that people are in *100%*
> agreement is acceptable, that would be... good.
>
> l.
>
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