[Arm-netbook] device tree not the answer in the ARM world [was: Re: running Debian on a Cubieboard]

Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl at lkcl.net
Wed May 8 09:19:23 BST 2013

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:44 AM, Rob Landley <rob at landley.net> wrote:

>>  whereas the EOMA initiative is at the complete opposite end of the
>> spectrum.  and products based around the EOMA standards, although
>> there is a cost overhead of e.g. around $6 in parts for EOMA-68, there
>> is a whopping great saving of 30 to 40% to the customer when compared
>> to other products *if* your end-user is prepared to swap / share CPU
>> Cards between two products.  if they share the CPU Card between three
>> products then the saving to them is even greater.
> In theory, Moore's Law says that buys you... 9 months?

 and 6 months in to that 9 months you bring out the next CPU Card, and
the next, and the next, and the next, and the next.

 there's a hell of a lot of history already behind the EOMA
initiatives.  i'm running this discussion down, btw - the point's been
made, and i'm inviting linux kernel developers who may not have been
aware of the initiative to be involved.

 for many people i know they're absolutely fed up of always playing
catch-up: if that's the case then this is your opportunity to make a

>>  not only that but rather than throw away an entire product just
>> because a CPU Card is obsolete [to them] the end-user can either
>> re-purpose the CPU Card in a slower product, or sell it on e-bay, or
>> re-use it in a freedombox.... whatever they like.
> A phone is a mass-produced consumer electronics device. Is "I can rip the
> guts out of my DVD player and re-use it" a commercially interesting
> statement?

 you've missed the point.  EOMA-68 CPU Cards are separately-sold
mass-volume *interchangeable* products, i.e. being packaged in legacy
PCMCIA housings they have the exact same advantages of PCMCIA except
now it's the *CPU* that's interchangeable between products.

 nobody in their right mind swaps the DVD electronics, they just buy
another DVD player.  including the mechanical part and the built-in
PSU, and the GPL-violating software running on it.

>>  what they *don't* have to do is put the entire product in landfill.
>>  etc. etc. i could go on about this at some length but i've already
>> done so lots of times.
> Link?

links.  here is a small non-exhaustive list.


that's probably enough.

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