[Arm-netbook] Flashing the NAND

Aaron J. Seigo aseigo at kde.org
Fri Dec 6 13:20:15 GMT 2013

On Friday, December 6, 2013 12:44:42 luke.leighton wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Aaron J. Seigo <aseigo at kde.org> wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 5, 2013 23:04:45 luke.leighton wrote:
> >> hi marco, welcome to the list, and thanks for agreeing to post these
> >> questions publicly so that others can help answer them, and more can
> >> benefit from everyone's replies.
> > 
> > what surprises me is that all this apparent work has been done and yet:
>  it hasn't.  everyone else who has sold sunxi-related product has used
> the default GPL-violating binaries supplied by allwinner (and has
> typically used the proprietary w32 tools to load them up).
ignore boot0/boot1 and sum up everything from “booting from sd card”, “flashing 
nand”, “building a kernel that actually does useful things like see nand 
partitions”, “getting opengl to work”, etc.

yes, the hardware companies are making this harder than necessary, but when we 
get to say things like "also much of this stuff is current-knowledge in 
$PERSON's head”, point people to N different wikis all in different states of 
usefulness and we still have to dive into source code to re-discover what 
others may or may not have done .. that’s *insanity*

knowledge is being generated and then *thrown away*. that’s good enough for 
tinkerers and hobbyists who want to learn a little something but it is not 
good enough for building either a dynamic Free software community nor a 
business environment around.

> > do people on this list ever hold irc meetings?
>  no.  there's no "leaders", only “peers”.  

i didn’t ask if there were leaders (whatever you might mean by that). i asked 
if there were meetings. peers meet, too, and can do so of their own volition.

and pls don’t confuse “coordination” with “leadership” or “coordinator” with 
“leader”. they are not necessarily the same thing.

> out of those peers, they do
> the work they feel motivated to do, in their own available time, and,
> on irc, they are available online at times that are convenient to
> them.

this is true of every single other tech community i have ever been a part of. 
those communities (at least the successful onese) have all managed to 
coordinate meetings on a regular basis in which we coordinate and plan, thus 
preventing things like knowledge loss.

>  i'm including the sunxi community in that assessment as well.

yes, seems that way indeed.

which brings us to the last question i posed:

"would people be open to having one with the goal of improving this 

you can’t answer for everyone, but you can answer for yourself.

Aaron J. Seigo

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