[Arm-netbook] Looking for an ARM Netbook !

lkcl luke luke.leighton at gmail.com
Wed Jul 4 17:55:42 BST 2012


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Subject: Looking for an ARM Netbook !
Lkcl Luke wrote: "(just as an aside: no netbook Atom chipsets are
AMT-capable, no AMD netbooks have any kind of OOB management,)"

Atom chipsets have Intel VT which is "soft OOB." See the article below.
DASH is AMD's equivalent to AMT. Since AMT provides soft OOB for Intel's
Atom processor for netbooks, AMD most likely has it too for AMD's
netbooks. Speaking from experience as a victim of OOB monitoring after I
purchased an Acer Aspire One netbook, AMD DASH of some form is
definitely in AMD's netbooks. I returned the Acer.

My abuser's hackers repeatedly hacked into my mother's two desktop PCs
and my netbooks. My mother and I spent thousands of dollars on computer
security experts. Yet, none of them knew of or thought of OOB
monitoring. In February 2012, I posted a computer gig on craigslist.org
in search of another computer security expert. In my post, I described
the complete remote control of my computer including Wake on WLAN, etc.
I received only one response that advised all the tampering may have
been performed via Intel's vPRO. The specifications of my netbooks did
not include vPRO. I ignored his advice. I purchased an Acer Aspire One
and kept it locked up. Went online only with a live DVD of Fedora.
Hacked again! I resumed researching vPRO which resulted in learning that
AMT is a major component of vPRO and that computers don't have to have
vPRO to have AMT. I also learned that AMD has its own OOB monitoring
called DASH.

Previously, I was ridiculed for suggesting OOB monitoring on computers
who's specifications do not include vPRO, AMT or DASH. After reading
Lkcl Luke's comment, I researched again this time using the search terms
"Atom". Finally, I found evidence of OOB monitoring that is not in the
specifications of PCs and not on Intel's list of processors that have
hard AMT.

Computer manufacturers allow invasion of privacy by failing to include
in their specifications that their netbooks have soft OOB. Perhaps
manufacturers don't even know it. Intel and AMD should have a data sheet
on their websites listing all processors that have soft OOB.

http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/embedded/innovation/manageability/adams-article-manageability

"‘Soft OOB’ in Intel® Atom™ processors

Devices based on Intel® Atom™ processors have been traditionally managed
from a software-only in-band approach. Today, OEMs
who are designing intelligent connected devices based on Intel® Atom™
processors have increasing expectations for remote
manageability, based in some cases on their experience with OOB
solutions.

The solution for devices based on Intel® Atom processors involves a
mid-way step, between full out-of-band management and
the traditional software-only approach. This is a “soft OOB”
manageability solution based on Intel® Virtualization
technology (Intel® VT) that enables a management stack to run in its own
virtual machine, independent of the host operating
system. Intel® VT has the additional advantage of minimizing performance
overhead in the embedded device associated with
virtualizing the platform.

Such virtualized partitioning cannot survive a hardware failure–but it
can support remote diagnosis and maintenance in the
event that the primary operating system locks-up or there is other
software-related issue, which is by far the leading cause
of trouble reports. The soft OOB approach can enable remote discovery
and rebooting of the embedded device into a diagnostic
mode, as well as control over sleep states and remote shutdown for
efficient power management as supported by the
virtualization machine monitor. Remote wake-up from a sleep state can be
achieved via the Ethernet controller using its
“wake on LAN” capability.

Intel® VT provides a pathway to OOB manageability, with the additional
advantage that developers implementing soft OOB in
Intel® Atom processor-based devices can use the same consistent and
familiar APIs and standard interfaces that they may
already use with Intel® AMT-based solutions.

Intelligent connected devices also need to be managed devices. At Intel
we are working with our customers to extend the
robust, secure and reliable remote management capabilities we pioneered
with Intel® AMT into new categories of products,
while helping to ensure an optimal experience for OEMs, developers,
network operators and end-users."

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