[Arm-netbook] Mele box group on counting

Alejandro Martínez zen at itram.es
Mon Feb 27 14:32:15 GMT 2012

I haven't got any single package arriving from China stopped by customs
here in Spain, including boxes of shirts, my Novo7 and huge (as in,
voluminous) packages from Dealextreme.

I've seen several group-purchases made to China being organized on a
spanish forum I'm part of and the cheapest option always ends up having
shipped everything individually (and low-valued)... shipping *from* China
is much, much cheaper than shipping *to* China, or to any other european

If anything, grouping together shipments of appliances destined to a same
country may work, but I don't think it might save us much.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:14 PM, lkcl luke <luke.leighton at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2012/2/27 Henrik Nordström <henrik at henriknordstrom.net>:
> > mån 2012-02-27 klockan 09:38 +0000 skrev Simon Kenyon:
> >
> >> would it be cheaper to ship from china to one location in europe and
> >> from there to the various people who want one?
> >
> > Depends on customs handling I think.
>  yes.  what that means is that someone in Europe has to be paid money
> in advance by all 11 (12?) people, in order to pay for *their* customs
> charges.
> > Shipping from China seems to be quite cheap compared to shipping within
> > europe,
> > but each import customs processing if handled by a customs agent
> > adds a quite significant processing fee.
> which in the case of parcelforce you can go along to the post office,
> demand the parcel, refuse to pay the "handling" charge on the grounds
> that the contract for delivery was between them and the person who
> paid for shipping.
>  if they insist on payment - which they should not - then you ask them
> to put it into writing that they are refusing to honour a contract
> which has nothing to do with you.
>  but you MUST object to the "handling" charge.  if you do not, then
> you have agreed to their contract (which has absolutely nothing to do
> with the "delivery" contract) and MUST pay the "handling" charge.
>  having objected, they will then send you a demand and an invoice.
> you then object again IN WRITING, pointing out that you wish to see
> the contract which was signed and agreed to by yourself (pointing out
> that such a contract does not exist).
>  miraculously, the next time you phone to speak to them about it they
> will have no record of the existence of the invoice.
>  l.
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