[Arm-netbook] [review] SoC proposal

Bari Ari bari at onelabs.com
Thu Feb 9 14:29:19 GMT 2012


On 02/09/2012 08:08 AM, Iliya Georgiev wrote:
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> The direction that you are evaluating is similar to that of NVidia. 
> According to the source (full of rumors and not the most credible one 
> according to me) a future product of Nvidia with code name Denver (or 
> Tegra 5) is a SoC that contains together CPU and GPU. The CPU side 
> will be "a software/firmware based ‘code morphing’ CPU like 
> Transmeta". (The latter had VLIW-like architecture that relies on 
> software compiler). The release date of Denver is planned in 2013/2014 
> time frame. :)
> If the free/open source software developers have enough space to play 
> with the processor, proposed by you, they will not let you down.More 
> over if you give them more freedom than NVidia solution. So I am full 
> of positivism about your direction.
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> The source: 
> http://semiaccurate.com/2011/08/05/what-is-project-denver-based-on/
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FTA: "Looking at Nvidia’s track record over the past few years, it is a 
casebook of failure after failure. When questioned, Nvidia management 
points the finger everywhere but where it should be pointed, at 
themselves. "

"Engineers are a very logical bunch, quite good at doing what they are 
told in innovative ways, and solving problems logically. If those 
engineers are given impossible tasks, or their PoR changes every few 
months, it makes it very hard to meet unwavering deadlines. If the 
deadlines change, that reflects badly on management. If the engineers 
don’t meet deadlines, it isn’t management’s fault, right? Nvidia has a 
management problem, a big one, and until that changes, we hold little 
hope for T50 being successful in spite of the engineers best efforts"

Combine this with how Nvidia does not work closely with the open source 
community or take on new customers that wish to purchase in OEM volumes 
and I don't see how we can count on being able to work with the T50 or 
even choose to.

You might be surprised by how quickly GCC support can come together for 
a new cpu core that is also driven by a cooperative open software 
community without any hidden agendas, control issues or confused management.



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