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On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:23 AM, fuumind fuumind@openmailbox.org wrote:
I'd like to share my thoughts on this as well. I don't think Luke is trying to sell us anything. I think he is asking us to finance a part of his grand plan to reprogram how humanity thinks about consumer electronics with the goal of making the world a better place. Only problem for him is he has to dress it up as a sale of products because that's how the game is rigged.
... pretty much. there is more to it than that: there is some urgency as well, related to the consequences of the US dollar being the world reserve currency *and* that the US treasury began hyperinflating the dollar some time around 2006 (see senator ron paul's book "end the fed"). i won't go into details but we have not got long.
Luke is doing this because he thinks it is *the right thing* from a moral perpective, not because he is primarily looking for profit or for a good time. If he did he would be doing like cocal cola or the candy industry, or even like the car industry or the food industry and tickle our wants or needs. Even like the people at Nextthing Co with their successfull crowdfunding of the CHIP computer (https://www.kickstarter. com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer/). They don't ask people to change the world. They are trying to get a profit from selling a fun tinkering experience and never mention the fact that their product is full of blobs, at least not in their marketing. Sure they would prefer if it was fully libre and recyclable but they are willing to compromise in order to make it easy for them to have people spend money.
correct. i only recently encountered "Bob Podolski", last month, who was the *very first person* ever to define for me what "ethical acts" are. most people do not operate ethically. they believe that "unethical means justifies ethical ends" - BY DEFINITION if you use unethical means you CANNOT achieve an ethical end.
The question at this stage isn't "How can we make people want to buy these products?" The question is "How do we gather enough passionate recruits to get this revolution going?" but that question is hard to fit into the realities of a marketing campaign for a couple of products.
pretty much, but we have to try, and i've actually found it fun to tell the story in terms that people can understand how to save money with this approach. the ethical side is almost irrelevant
mostly i focus on the fact that people can save money by being able to upgrade for $50 instead of throwing a $500 laptop into landfill. if they have children and not much money i tell them that they can solve all the arguments by buying one laptop housing for the household and one computer card per family member. if they have a tablet and a laptop i tell them they can save 40% by buying only one computer card to share between two devices, and save even more by sharing the computer card across even more housings.
save, save, save - less cost, less cost, less cost. problems go away, hassle-free computing, no trying to transfer files between devices, just transfer the whole computer. easy, easy, easy.
but there is still quite a lot to do, technically-wise, hence the reason why i want to stay at the MOQ 250 level (or just above) at this stage. we need you (the technically-minded people) to help try this out on your friends and family and close co-workers, supporting them and being prepared to walk them through the process of being comfortable with this new paradigm. if you've done "tech support" for your friends and family for 5-20 years, you'll know what i mean.
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