On 02/09/2017 09:59 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
with the exception of fedora which has only a few backers i will NOT be distributing a filesystem which contains the completely unethically-developed and very dangerous systemd application. having evaluated its development, watched the predicted security vulnerabilities unfold and cause massive disruption, and witnessed its "ram it down people's throats" deployment without due consideration or consultation with end-users, nor the distros respecting end-users rights to NOT be forced into using it, i cannot and will not be associated or endorse such totally unethical behaviour, so will be removing it from all rootfs images. post-distribution, if people then wish to undo that because they find systemd to be useful and have no objections to its usage they are entirely free to do so.
I don't personally care whether or not my system includes systemd (it does), but I have seen no evidence of wrongdoing by the systemd developers. Every single case of systemd adoption I am aware of was because the maintainers of a distro wanted to adopt it. And systemd is libre, even copylefted. There are no ethical grounds to oppose it.
Besides, people who hate systemd would choose Devuan rather than Debian. Why would you give people who ordered a computer card with Debian (i.e. using systemd) something they didn't ask for? Best-case scenario, no one cares. Worst-case scenario, you make a decision that turns out to be a maintenance burden for you and annoys some of your backers. Regardless of your opinion on the matter, this isn't a battle you should be fighting, at least not here.