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On 02/15/2018 06:43 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
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On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 4:40 PM, Christopher Havel laserhawk64@gmail.com wrote:
I think the world is not full of stupid people. Two similar but distinct logos should not be a challenge for the general population... even in the USA, where education is somewhat questionable in quality, or in African countries where education is *ahem* borderline extant. You don't have to be able to name e.g. pink and blue in order to know them as different...
True. The problem (as I understand it) is when you have even reasonably intelligent people who can't understand the language. Few websites are set up to refuse to serve pages to people who don't speak the language of the site, and cannot, practically or impractically, be fully reliably so limited.
If EOMA succeeds, this will be a problem in non-English to English speaker as well as the currently discussed English to non-English speaker .
Someone with an iq below say 75 /might/ have trouble - but someone with an iq that's also a thermostat setting is going to have a tremendous challenge just generally navigating through the world as-is, and we can therefore ignore that use case.
statistically unfortunately the number of 75 IQ outliers increases massively with sample size. if 100 million is not enough to satisfy you that we cannot take risks, increase it by an order of magnitude to a billion people.
I had been thinking about this, and the problem, unfortunately, is not even just about the 75 IQ outliers. There is also the problem of demonstrably intelligent people who seem to shut off their brains around computers. Maybe the infamous question about the "any key" is the low IQ people, but I'm pretty sure it isn't entirely so, and there's a whole lot of issues one step up that really do seem to trip up intelligent people.
sorry chris. really, we can't mess about with "options" here. it's one option or it's nothing at all. "any colour as long as it's black".
Here is why it's "any colour as long as it's black": Any logo MUST work not just in colour, but in black and white, or further, embossed, or engraved without any colour or lightness information remaining.
So far the only solution I see is to have a second term, *not* EOMA, to refer to hobbyist hacking projects that are theoretically compatible. The challenge, AIUI, is that such term *cannot* be used in the official documentation, and even using it on this list, which is (imperfect name or not) the official EOMA discussion list, is problematic.
This second term will be generated sooner or later. It's unfortunate that the need to keep them separate makes the bootstrap process a lot harder, but that seems to be the price of keeping EOMA pure enough to work for non-technical users. And, frankly, for the technical users who aren't in the mood to fuss with specifications at any given time.
For that matter, being weary of checking compatibility was a large part of the reason I bought my computer from Think Penguin.
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