On 16.9.12 14:15, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
On ~~, Sep 12, 2016 at 7:40 PM, chadvellacott@sasktel.net wrote:
On 16.9.12 0:25, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
> > On ~, Sep 10, 2016 at 11:47 PM, <chadvellacott@sasktel.net> wrote:
On 16.9.9 20:41, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>>> >>> On ~~, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:25 AM, Sam Pablo Kuper >>> >>> <sampablokuper@posteo.net> wrote: >>> >>>> "By using the Service to accept Pre-orders, you as the Creator are
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Seems pretty clear to me :)
hmm.... have to think about that, as i can't come back in the USA and
bring in anything that could be construed as a "sample".
l.
Would it work to just ship those items, from outside of the "US",
like "MiniFree" or "Kano" seem to or seemed to? At least for shipping TO addresses outside of the "US"?
we need to work out if it's cheaper to ship everything first to the US and then outwards from there (because there's no customs duty, just a one-off "fee" that pales into insignificance). certainly, sea freight (which is by volume) would be a lot lower than air freight (which is by weight).
i've been trusting the amounts that both chris and joshua independently use: they're both experienced at this. me, i'm just getting my head down into the PCBs etc. for now - logistics comes later.
l.
I have been aiming, to "pre-order" in the next few days. But, how likely, do you think, shall you be able to FILL "pre-orders"? If how you will respond to "pre-ordering" is "up in the air", then me "pre-ordering" now, might result in hassle for both of us, rather than be of benefit to both of us.
right. this is an open project: it's not like a "profit maximising company" where they do their absolute best to hide absolutely everything except the "positive marketing messages" such as "we're now shipping!!!! so you can trust us!!!! give us yer money!!!!"
ordinarily, if an "employee" said "i don't know" it wouldn't matter, would it? you'd *never know* that he'd said "i don't know", or that the manager who had been asked to find out had to go back the boss and say "we don't know", would you?
here's the thing: *everybudy* doesn't really "know" until it actually happens. you "don't know" if there's going to be an earthquake in Taiwan which destroys the foundries (this happened a few years ago), or some floods or a fire will destroy the DDR RAM factories (which also happened a few years ago), or the factory where things are being manufactured might have a fire (as happened with the NexDock - it started in the factory next door and spread, destroying 50% of the stock).
to make judgements based on these kinds of things, where you *don't know* if they're going to happen or not - is part and parcel of life... *not* just this campaign.
bottom line, it's up to you to decide. just be aware that you're getting an honest glimpse into a world you've never seen before, in just the same way that the openpandora and openmoko operated a decade ago.
l.
I did not really mean to ask you to predict the likelihood of an earth-quake or flood or fire, or things which are generally relevant to life rather than specifically relevant to this campaign. I was not trying to get you to promise something which you cannot thoughtfully promise. I understand being sensitive to not over-promising, in the position which you are in. I myself try to avoid over-promising. And I aim to give others reasonable and compassionate latitude in regard to anything which they word as a promise to me.
The context for my question, was the discussion between thee and Sam Kuper, as to "Crowd Supply's" terms for pledges and for pre-orders. Thou ended up seeming to admit to having mis-understood regarding pre-orders, and to be having some kind of "second thoughts" regarding pre-orders, as shown in the top quotes of this "email" and my previous "email". I deliberately included those quotes now and previously. Because they were relevant "background" to my question.
I only meant to ask a question as to your plans, and as to whether you were re-considering some one or more plans. I guess that I should have asked, "how likely will" instead of "shall".
(a) Are you considering suspending pre-orders? If so, then perhaps I might as well wait, until that decision is made in one direction or another.
(b) "Would" it help you at all, in your decision-making (such as whether to get the factory to make 200 more cards), if I pre-"order" (it'd be at least 1 computer-card and at least 1 "PFY" lap-top-kit) as soon as I am ready?
Eagerly, Chad. (:^)