arm-netbook January 2018

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Laptop LCD Touch Pad: Display KB Layout Idea
by Alexander Ross 25 Mar '19

25 Mar '19

On the laptops lcd touch pad. Here’s a idea for a feature. When leaning new keyboard layout. Say dovrak for example. The trouble is learning where the new keys are. For me at least, one could do with a constant reminder. What if the lcd touch pad displayed the current pressed keys? Maybe on a image of the keyboard, meaning some way of representing where the key you pressed is relative to other keys. So if its the wrong one you can see where the right one is. This info is only displayed while the keyboard is in use. When the touch pad is in use it switches to a relevant display for touch pad use. As for when the user is using not the touch pad nor the keyboard? What then? display keymap? If playing video display: video controls, time left, is internet speed fast enough for this stream? etc.

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Re: [Arm-netbook] Logos
by John Luke Gibson 22 Sep '18

22 Sep '18

I would highly recommend avoiding any logos, without proper historical reference. One of the problems with traditional Linux icons, are that they are very un-iconic. It's better to be textually based, in my opinion, than to use disorienting imagery. At this point, most of the clay has already set so referencing/alluding-to other gnu projects [such as blender] wouldn't be detrimental, however ascii has a very richer history of use by "hacktivists". Referencing some historically relevant (to "hacktivism") ascii iconography either overtly or subtly, kindof more or less as a hat tip to communities which support said historical events will cause the logo a greater likelihood of being regarded as iconic. I wish I had specific examples, but possibly using cloister black font would be a subtle hat tip to anonymous for some individuals use of various letters in that font as copy-cat of L from Death Note. Another thing of note, would be that we need to be careful who we tip our hats to, to be careful of who in the future people might assume us to endorse. A font is innocuous enough, that it can be adapted later due to circumstance (should a need arise to disassociate) without damaging the recognize-ability of any logo. The universal and modular style of blender, is a good point to mimic. A solid dot in the center of the "O" would probably be a subtle enough correlation to the blender logo. This is the pattern of thinking we need in developing logos and "slogans". Thinking about what sounds catchy only correlates us with random corporate culture. We don't need to be entirely original as we have a history to fall back on. However originality might also help distinguish us from our predecessors, the last thing we want is to fail to distinguish ourselves from your neighborhood corporation. I would recommend Luke to contact Wenqing Yang a.k.a. "Yummei", using the notability of the project to attract their attention. I would like to point out that despite being a cultural figure (famous artist) in the hacktivist community they previously lauched a multi-million dollar successful indiegogo which caused them much heart ache (per their blog) over legal controversy with so-called partners and their personal admonishment that they failed to do enough. >From: Alexander Ross <maillist_arm-netbook(a)aross.me> >To: Linux on small ARM machines <arm-netbook(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk> >Cc: >Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 16:07:15 +0000 >Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] Logos >this all these efforts, got me to have a play around too. :) > > i was started having a go at one idea of letters inserting into each > other kinda like a module. > > I had put E and O in side the M. it then kinda looked like/spelled Meoo > like a cat. > So what about a darn cat logo? maybe a cat playing with a eoma68 card in > its paws? > > sry for the yet another internet cat image type of suggestion, never > thought id be making one heh.

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Re: [Arm-netbook] Logos
by John Luke Gibson 21 Sep '18

21 Sep '18

> The idea about a dot in the "O" of EOMA made me think of fonts where the > dot is in the 0 (zero) to distinguish it from O (capital letter O) As we > all are somehow computer related I would find such a design confusing. If it was really to be in honor of the modularity and progress of blender, one would want to make the "O" not really in any particular font, but to look exactly the shape blender logo, except without the flay or the color scheme: a perfect solid-color circle within another perfect circle. It wouldn't theoretically be confusing because the mark you are thinking of is a hollow circle in an oval. Letter-o'es and zeroes can only sometimes be confusing because in some fonts they are both written as vertical ovals, not just the zero. I'm not sure on the required dimensions of a certification mark, however, the solid-shape flag-esque convention I've noticed among popular one's, often seems to detract from the continuity of the design on the objects that bear them, making them seem particularly foreign and like they don't belong. The vaporwave-esque color palate which most of them choose only add to this affect, as if they themselves are trying to distance themselves on some subconscious level from their endorsements. As a side effect to this, it makes them harder to trust. Any symbolism of any significant body, displays historical awareness.. It's what tells people whether they can trust it, before reading or attempting to judge it. Therein lies the axiom, there is no such thing as an original thought, so, if by means of arbitrary work dedicated to make more concise and thoroughly plastered an announcement of what historical or cultural event may have inspired such thoughts and such work, people will then engage in the arbitrarily difficult work of judging whether the project is sincere or not. In other words, if we don't display more than necessary effort in our symbol that can be recognized with several magnitudes less effort than it took to generate, then no highly-self-valuing person will have any sane reason to take us seriously, because if they took every slightly promising project, which failed to create a Sybil-certificate reputation in this manner, then they would never find a single valuable project in their lifetime (obviously this is an exaggeration).

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Testing: GPIO
by Richard Wilbur 04 Mar '18

04 Mar '18

After looking at the schematics for the DS113 v2.7 2017-02-17 and the microdesktop v1.7 I feel the need to ask whether there are more up-to-date schematics available? Results of my sleuthing thus far attached.

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updates from eoma68-a20
by zap 09 Feb '18

09 Feb '18

I heard you considering only sending 1gb of ram instead of 2gb of ram. I just wanted to ask, if it comes down to it, if you would be willing to still send 2gb of ram and have uboot preloaded even if it costs a little extra... for those of us who really need the 2gb of ram. 4gb would be nice too of course, but 2gb is probably good enough as long as you don't use virtualization for any reason. :) It also dawns on me, that meltdown does not affect the a20 arm processor... This makes me think that I really will want what your selling more than I have before. but yeah, this christmas which is a long way away, I know I have been saying this for a while, but with meltdown I believe I have good reason to say I will purchase one. PS, this applies mostly if the date of the eoma68-a20 libre laptop doesn't have to be sent later then expected... heh... :) I am grateful this opportunity even exists. Oh and for those on the mailing list who don't know this, A20 is apparently immune to meltdown and spectre. Because it is part of armv7. So yeah, that really motivates me! I still hope for better though in the future... Shakti anyone? ;)

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Alt Webpage & Logo Combo
by Alexander Ross 06 Feb '18

06 Feb '18

http://rhombus-tech.aross.me/webpagealt/ more of alt homepage but felt like calling it generic webpage instead. its a start, lots to do. using a designed i started for something else so its has ref to a background image that dont exist, etc. css needs more work but its taking the beginnings of a shape :) I combined to logos people made and also made some little mods of my own. i feel quite happy with the outcome :) feedback good to hear, what ya would like to do , how ya feel.. should really put efforts into modding wiki page... but this fresh start would have a diff outcome than fitting around existing wiki design... but yea i think i should face up to having ago at wiki css... just dont feel like it currently... so i thought i’d see how this goes. idk if ill manage to do any more... i guess ill see if i get inspired some more and rev up to it :) I would really like some/to get more photos of the cards and housings to play about making some pics that help people to go "arr i get it". As they browse and scroll down :)

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Exclave -- Factory Test Infrastructure
by Philip Hands 31 Jan '18

31 Jan '18

Hi, I just came across this: http://exclave.io/ as mentioned in this LCA2018 talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcyuzB3qLVo and thought that it might be useful for testing EOMA boards. It's cute, as it lets you write tests in whatever works for you, and just pays attention to the last line of output, and the return code. You can knock up a shell script, say, and if you can run it on the command line and get it to work, then exclave can run it for you. This is what is used to run the factory test for Bunnie's chibitronics LoveToCode microcontroller boards, among other things. BTW The LCA talk includes some handy tips on how to make such tests work for factory workers who are not likely to read English, nor to have a lot of time/concentration spare. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/ http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg, GERMANY

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Devicetree discussion
by Jonathan Neuschäfer 31 Jan '18

31 Jan '18

Hi, I've created a page on the wiki to collect some information about devicetree, so the exact scheme of devicetree support for EOMA68 housings can be worked out: http://rhombus-tech.net/devicetree/ Feel free to extend/correct/discuss it. Thanks, Jonathan Neuschäfer

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New Economics Wikipage
by Jean Flamelle 29 Jan '18

29 Jan '18

I'm starting the new page to address ideas on how to incent more to support the project. Since cryptocurrency was a recent hot-topic and some appreciated my input there, I'll be starting with a brief rundown of why the topic is complicated and might one start if they want to deep dive into it. I don't want to give my opinion on which currencies we should accept, even standard ones, because the issue is so deep I'd rather help others break into the conversation. Mindshare is really crucial here, because this defines all-in-all the people the project supports, how much the project supports them, and who will be incent to support the project as a result. We don't want to goad people into spreading word, sharing references, and funding EOMA or FLOSS. We want to play nice and win their hearts then only after recognizing we've won them over convince them to do those things. The level of disclosure this mailing-list demonstrates such impeccable willingness to abide that principle, that is what really won me into participating. - Aside, I'm still going to be on and off contributing to the "proposed best practices" page. I would like to start with examples of what I consider pretty impressive projects. I am also interested in liberating CHIP, but I want to get a more thorough understanding of electronic circuit firmware before I move forward. As is important to say, I'd rather do well or have not done at all.

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Can’t LogIn To Wiki?
by Alexander Ross 29 Jan '18

29 Jan '18

or is it just me? trying to update home page multiable_devices_diagram image url to new one. as the my stuff is no longer hosted on friends server. new url: http://rhombus-tech.aross.me/multiable_devices_diagram/eoma-68_multiable-de…

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