arm-netbook January 2017

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Laptop LCD Touch Pad: Display KB Layout Idea
by Alexander Ross 25 Mar '19

25 Mar '19

On the laptops lcd touch pad. Here’s a idea for a feature. When leaning new keyboard layout. Say dovrak for example. The trouble is learning where the new keys are. For me at least, one could do with a constant reminder. What if the lcd touch pad displayed the current pressed keys? Maybe on a image of the keyboard, meaning some way of representing where the key you pressed is relative to other keys. So if its the wrong one you can see where the right one is. This info is only displayed while the keyboard is in use. When the touch pad is in use it switches to a relevant display for touch pad use. As for when the user is using not the touch pad nor the keyboard? What then? display keymap? If playing video display: video controls, time left, is internet speed fast enough for this stream? etc.

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Re: [Arm-netbook] Logos
by John Luke Gibson 22 Sep '18

22 Sep '18

I would highly recommend avoiding any logos, without proper historical reference. One of the problems with traditional Linux icons, are that they are very un-iconic. It's better to be textually based, in my opinion, than to use disorienting imagery. At this point, most of the clay has already set so referencing/alluding-to other gnu projects [such as blender] wouldn't be detrimental, however ascii has a very richer history of use by "hacktivists". Referencing some historically relevant (to "hacktivism") ascii iconography either overtly or subtly, kindof more or less as a hat tip to communities which support said historical events will cause the logo a greater likelihood of being regarded as iconic. I wish I had specific examples, but possibly using cloister black font would be a subtle hat tip to anonymous for some individuals use of various letters in that font as copy-cat of L from Death Note. Another thing of note, would be that we need to be careful who we tip our hats to, to be careful of who in the future people might assume us to endorse. A font is innocuous enough, that it can be adapted later due to circumstance (should a need arise to disassociate) without damaging the recognize-ability of any logo. The universal and modular style of blender, is a good point to mimic. A solid dot in the center of the "O" would probably be a subtle enough correlation to the blender logo. This is the pattern of thinking we need in developing logos and "slogans". Thinking about what sounds catchy only correlates us with random corporate culture. We don't need to be entirely original as we have a history to fall back on. However originality might also help distinguish us from our predecessors, the last thing we want is to fail to distinguish ourselves from your neighborhood corporation. I would recommend Luke to contact Wenqing Yang a.k.a. "Yummei", using the notability of the project to attract their attention. I would like to point out that despite being a cultural figure (famous artist) in the hacktivist community they previously lauched a multi-million dollar successful indiegogo which caused them much heart ache (per their blog) over legal controversy with so-called partners and their personal admonishment that they failed to do enough. >From: Alexander Ross <maillist_arm-netbook(a)aross.me> >To: Linux on small ARM machines <arm-netbook(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk> >Cc: >Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 16:07:15 +0000 >Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] Logos >this all these efforts, got me to have a play around too. :) > > i was started having a go at one idea of letters inserting into each > other kinda like a module. > > I had put E and O in side the M. it then kinda looked like/spelled Meoo > like a cat. > So what about a darn cat logo? maybe a cat playing with a eoma68 card in > its paws? > > sry for the yet another internet cat image type of suggestion, never > thought id be making one heh.

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Re: [Arm-netbook] Logos
by John Luke Gibson 21 Sep '18

21 Sep '18

> The idea about a dot in the "O" of EOMA made me think of fonts where the > dot is in the 0 (zero) to distinguish it from O (capital letter O) As we > all are somehow computer related I would find such a design confusing. If it was really to be in honor of the modularity and progress of blender, one would want to make the "O" not really in any particular font, but to look exactly the shape blender logo, except without the flay or the color scheme: a perfect solid-color circle within another perfect circle. It wouldn't theoretically be confusing because the mark you are thinking of is a hollow circle in an oval. Letter-o'es and zeroes can only sometimes be confusing because in some fonts they are both written as vertical ovals, not just the zero. I'm not sure on the required dimensions of a certification mark, however, the solid-shape flag-esque convention I've noticed among popular one's, often seems to detract from the continuity of the design on the objects that bear them, making them seem particularly foreign and like they don't belong. The vaporwave-esque color palate which most of them choose only add to this affect, as if they themselves are trying to distance themselves on some subconscious level from their endorsements. As a side effect to this, it makes them harder to trust. Any symbolism of any significant body, displays historical awareness.. It's what tells people whether they can trust it, before reading or attempting to judge it. Therein lies the axiom, there is no such thing as an original thought, so, if by means of arbitrary work dedicated to make more concise and thoroughly plastered an announcement of what historical or cultural event may have inspired such thoughts and such work, people will then engage in the arbitrarily difficult work of judging whether the project is sincere or not. In other words, if we don't display more than necessary effort in our symbol that can be recognized with several magnitudes less effort than it took to generate, then no highly-self-valuing person will have any sane reason to take us seriously, because if they took every slightly promising project, which failed to create a Sybil-certificate reputation in this manner, then they would never find a single valuable project in their lifetime (obviously this is an exaggeration).

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Logos
by James L 30 Jan '17

30 Jan '17

Here is my attempt at a KISS logo for EOMA68 (easily adapted for other standards): https://www.flickr.com/photos/151565999@N03/32579869145 If you want me to post it somewhere else (or you want the sources), you got to point me where to upload it. License: Whatever lkcl wants (otherwise cc-sa-by-4.0)

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Re: [Arm-netbook] arm-netbook features
by zap 30 Jan '17

30 Jan '17

I hope I am doing this right subject wise, I am curious: I was wondering how much battery life do you expect to see by default if you have a web browser like firefox open. I also wondered when the 4gb ram supporting processor will be an option. Is the printed for you version easy to build? and finally I am curious, is it extremely stable? just because it is made partly of wood that makes me curious. fire problem aka...

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KDE Slimbook
by David Boddie 28 Jan '17

28 Jan '17

Wandering off-topic again, it seems that a KDE laptop has been announced: https://dot.kde.org/2017/01/26/kde-and-slimbook-release-laptop-kde-fans It's Intel-based, so not interesting for everyone here, and more of a power user's laptop: http://kde.slimbook.es/hardware KDE Neon is based on Ubuntu 16.04 at the moment so, again, maybe not to everyone's taste, but another option for some people, maybe. Not sure about the choice of name myself... :-p David

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personal fight against the modern laptop
by mike.valk＠gmail.com 27 Jan '17

27 Jan '17

http://hackaday.com/2017/01/26/a-personal-fight-against-the-modern-laptop/ https://youtu.be/Ib7tFvw34DM I Commented on the video that EOMA might be what he'd like. I tried to point him to the EC firmware but "http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma" is bit of a mess. It contains a lot of (historical) info without structure. Also I find. http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/laptop_15in/ and the e-linux wiki hard to navigate. It's messy. If I'd like to start hacking on the laptop a staring point would be nice.

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EOMA68 In A Intel Card World?
by Alexander Ross 27 Jan '17

27 Jan '17

How to market eoma68 vs intel card in a positive way? Heres a go, please edit,suggest as you feel. hmm sounds like a wiki page is coming :) : EOMA68: *Grass roots developed - made by someone who cares *Any processor make *Made with free software and its developers in mind. to help advance and fund free software. *Hardware that just works for free software and there for any software *Makes it easier for the creation and maintenance of many, yet to be thought of, new devices. *Higher Spec additional standard EOMA200 in the works after current ones products are in the market. *Smaller, extra compact card Spec, EOMACF addition also on the future list. *Only certification fees. No royalty fees *Made by for profit making but good will first company, as opposite to extreme maximising company. The priority is the best computer card standards. *EOMA68 is spec’ed for lower power consuming devices. ideal for battery power devices. See future EOMA200 for high power consumption / more powerful computers(SOCS) *hmm what else?

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First laptop dock for Intel's card announced
by Lauri Kasanen 24 Jan '17

24 Jan '17

Hi, First laptop dock for Intel's copy: http://www.fudzilla.com/news/mobile/42685-nexdock-transforms-intel-compute-… 14", switchable ports. - Lauri

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What's the current status of things?
by Christian Kellermann 24 Jan '17

24 Jan '17

Hi Luke! I would like to ask how things are working out on your side of the world with the EOMA68 project? How's the production planning? I have heard snippets of information spread out over all the threads here, a short summary would be awesome! And I guess it might be of interest to others as well, so this humble request goes to the list. Thanks, Christian -- May you be peaceful, may you live in safety, may you be free from suffering, and may you live with ease.

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