<div dir="ltr"><pre>Lyberta:<br>> Couple of points that got my attention. They say Linux instead of
> GNU/Linux. Open source instead of Free/Libre Software. They also
> mentioned Ubuntu. This was enough to me to stop having any respect for
> them. At least based on that post.<br><br></pre><pre>While I understand what you are saying I don't see how having one of <br>the most Linux friendly laptop manufacturers making a laptop based on <br>the EOMA68 standard would be a bad idea. Let's say hypothetically, they <br>decided to make the most awesome modular EOMA68 laptop possible, dual usb-c <br>3.1 and the works. Even if they did ship the system with a CPU card that<br>was running Ubuntu on it, the whole EOMA68 standard works on the premise <br>that if you can plug it in, it will work. Therefore, couldn't you just <br>swap out out the CPU card and put any other compatible EOMA68 CPU card in<br>there to enjoy the benefits of a well designed laptop and run your preferred <br>distro instead?<br></pre><pre>I understand that Ubuntu isn't your distro of choice (it isn't mine either) <br>however, I think that there aren't many Linux friendly computing companies <br>out there, let alone those that don't sell computers running anything other <br>than Linux. I think that it is certainly important to have principles and to <br>stick to them when possible however, when there seems to be as much common <br>ground between what we want to accomplish and what they want to accomplish <br>I am thinking it might be better to at least try working together than to <br>hunt around for reasons to be divisive. <br></pre><pre><br>Allan Mwenda:<br>> Well i dunno, system76 would want to make the fastest card not necessarily the freest.<br></pre><pre>I'm not so sure about this. I get the impression from reading some of their <br>blogs and whatnot that they spend quite a bit of time and effort vetting the <br>particular components they are putting into their systems to guarantee <br>compatibility with their Linux distribution of choice. So while I do think <br>they put some degree of importance into making sure that their systems have <br>good performance, I do think they are aware of what having upstream driver <br>support means for system components. I would agree that they would probably <br>want to get the best performance out of a CPU card that they could however, <br>I don't think that they would be too keen to do so at the cost of selecting <br>a chip that didn't have some degree of upstream support.<br></pre><pre><br>l:<br>> i sort-of thought about this overnight, and i think you're right,
> allan. the hardware they're selling is typically mid to high-end x86
> hardware [plus yes they talk about ubuntu] something like EOMA200
> would be a much better bet... but then so would many of the other
> (industrial) modular standards for their needs.
<br>I suppose I still don't see the harm in bringing the EOMA68 concept up to <br>them. The worst they could say is that they aren't interested. However, <br>they could potentially be a pretty good ally. Also, I did notice that in<br>the past few months they added a 96 core arm server to their lineup:<br><br><a href="https://system76.com/servers/starling">https://system76.com/servers/starling</a><br></pre><pre>Which means to me that they aren't completely wedded to solely x86 <br>hardware. Even with their tendency to build higher end laptops and systems <br>I think that an EOMA68 based laptop could easily exist within their line-up <br>as an upgradable chromebook alternative (something priced in the $250-500<br>range). That would allow them to test the EOMA68 waters while at the same<br>time allow them to build on and expand their higher-end line of x86 systems <br>as well.<br></pre><pre>I guess all I am trying to say is, that we won't know what a person or a <br>company will do until we ask the question. <br></pre></div>