<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">&gt;&gt;&gt; Message: 2<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:20:28 +0100<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; From: lkcl luke &lt;<a href="mailto:luke.leighton@gmail.com">luke.leighton@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] arm-netbook Digest, Vol 26, Issue 31<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Ershov Sergey &lt;<a href="mailto:ershovu@gmail.com">ershovu@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; To make a component in KiCAD needed components, or even documentation.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Documentation (size, location of the connectors) on EOMA-68 (A10<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; version)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; available?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;  i&#39;ve already added the TFBGA-441 part.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Please give a direct link to part TFBGA-441 (not found on<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href="http://git.rhombus-tech.net/)/" target="_blank">http://git.rhombus-tech.net/)/</a>.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;  <a href="http://git.rhombus-tech.net" target="_blank">http://git.rhombus-tech.net</a>.  sorry, sergey - it&#39;s in there.  i<br>
&gt; wouldn&#39;t provide that link if it wasn&#39;t in there, would i?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;  you *can* use &quot;find . | xargs grep -i allwinner&quot; or &quot;find . | grep<br>
&gt; allwinner&quot; or &quot;find . | xargs grep 441&quot; - if you had done that, you<br>
&gt; would have come up with this:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;  <a href="http://git.rhombus-tech.net/?p=eoma.git;a=blob;f=pcb/allwinner_a10/library/allwinner.lib;h=cd435ae32f3049d7b6dcb524af0fcc6ec1a6b77d;hb=dfaa27a0ec6db9eaaa8abc74c68849caa64b721b" target="_blank">http://git.rhombus-tech.net/?p=eoma.git;a=blob;f=pcb/allwinner_a10/library/allwinner.lib;h=cd435ae32f3049d7b6dcb524af0fcc6ec1a6b77d;hb=dfaa27a0ec6db9eaaa8abc74c68849caa64b721b</a><br>

<br>
 sorry about this, ershov - i was just caught by surprise.  i&#39;m very<br>
much used to being able to find things, and because i read it<br>
somewhere on a netiquette advice page somewhere, when i ask for help<br>
on a public mailing list i&#39;m also used to saying &quot;i&#39;m sorry, i&#39;ve<br>
tried following your advice, i&#39;ve looked here, here, here and here,<br>
i&#39;ve used techniques a b c and d to try to find the answer that you<br>
say is there but i just can&#39;t see it.  please could you give me some<br>
advice?&quot;<br>
<br>
 whereas the way that i see what you wrote, it seemed to be saying<br>
&quot;you&#39;re wrong, and also i cannot be bothered to find out, so i&#39;m going<br>
to *make* you take up your valuable time by telling me&quot;.<br>
<br>
 can you see how, if you had said &quot;i&#39;m really sorry, i&#39;ve tried<br>
looking by using search techniques&quot; that we could then go over those<br>
techniques and improve them?  instead, i have absolutely *no* idea<br>
what you previously tried, so i had to enumerate *all* possible search<br>
methods.<br>
<br>
 but, much worse than that, you triggered a response which, rather<br>
than encouraging you to participate in this project - how could you<br>
ever respond &quot;thank you&quot; to what i wrote? - probably actually<br>
*dis*-couraged you.<br>
<br>
 please therefore do take care to *show* that you&#39;re willing.  i<br>
realise english isn&#39;t your first language: that&#39;s never going to be a<br>
problem, because this is the internet age, we&#39;re used to that now.<br>
<br>
 ok sah? :)<br>
<br>
 /peace<br>
<br>
l.<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br></blockquote></div><br><span id="result_box" class="long_text" lang="en"><span class="hps">lkcl luke,</span> <span class="hps">thanks for the</span> <span class="hps">replies!</span><br> <span class="hps">English is not</span> <span class="hps">my native</span> <span class="hps">-</span> <span class="hps">I apologize</span> <span class="hps">for the mistakes.</span></span><div>
<span class="long_text" lang="en"><br> <span class="hps">How to</span> <span class="hps">place the component</span> <span class="hps atn">EOMA-</span>68 <span class="hps">(&quot;Allwiner A10 edition&quot;)</span> <span class="hps">I do not</span> <span class="hps">understand.</span></span><div>
<br></div><div><span id="result_box" class="long_text" lang="en"><span class="hps">I saw the</span> <span class="hps">library</span> <span class="hps">(<a href="http://git.rhombus-tech.net/?p=eoma.git">http://git.rhombus-tech.net/?p=eoma.git</a>; a = blob; f = pcb/allwinner_a10/library/allwinner.lib ;),</span> <span class="hps">I tried to find</span> <span class="hps">seats</span> <span class="hps">for the component</span> <span class="hps atn">EOMA-</span><span class="hps">68</span> <span class="hps">(&quot;Allwiner A10 edition&quot;)</span> <span class="hps">on</span> <span class="hps"><a href="http://git.rhombus-tech.net">http://git.rhombus-tech.net</a> -</span> <span class="hps">I</span> <span class="hps">could not find.</span></span></div>
<div><br></div><div><span tabindex="-1" id="result_box" class="long_text" lang="en"><span class="hps">Now</span> <span class="hps">I&#39;m trying to</span> <span class="hps">make a board</span> <span class="hps">for</span> <span class="hps atn">EOMA-</span>68 <span class="hps">(&quot;Allwiner A10 edition&quot;) -</span> <span class="hps">the problem is</span> <span class="hps">that in addition to</span> <span class="hps">the connector</span> <span class="hps">pcmcia</span> <span class="hps">there are 2</span> <span class="hps">additional</span> <span class="hps">connectors.</span> <span class="hps">Flat cables for</span> <span class="hps">connection</span> <span class="hps">greatly increases</span> <span class="hps">the cost</span> <span class="hps">in mass production.</span></span></div>
<div><br></div><div><span tabindex="-1" id="result_box" class="long_text" lang="en"><span class="hps">Maybe there is</span> <span class="hps">a reference design</span> <span class="hps">for</span> <span class="hps">&quot;MiniEngineeringBoard&quot;?</span><br>
<br> <span class="hps">Do not want to</span> <span class="hps">reinvent the wheel.</span><br><br> <span class="hps">Or create</span> <span class="hps atn">component &quot;</span>card <span class="hps atn">pcmcia EOMA-</span>68 <span class="hps">(Allwiner A10 edition)&quot;</span> <span class="hps">to place</span> <span class="hps">on the board</span> <span class="hps">...</span></span><br clear="all">
<div><br></div>-- <br>Ershov <br>
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