<div dir="ltr">I haven't got any single package arriving from China stopped by customs here in Spain, including boxes of shirts, my Novo7 and huge (as in, voluminous) packages from Dealextreme.<div><br></div><div><div>
I've seen several group-purchases made to China being organized on a spanish forum I'm part of and the cheapest option always ends up having shipped everything individually (and low-valued)... shipping *from* China is much, much cheaper than shipping *to* China, or to any other european country.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If anything, grouping together shipments of appliances destined to a same country may work, but I don't think it might save us much. </div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:14 PM, lkcl luke <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:luke.leighton@gmail.com">luke.leighton@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">2012/2/27 Henrik Nordström <<a href="mailto:henrik@henriknordstrom.net">henrik@henriknordstrom.net</a>>:<br>
<div class="im">> mån 2012-02-27 klockan 09:38 +0000 skrev Simon Kenyon:<br>
><br>
>> would it be cheaper to ship from china to one location in europe and<br>
>> from there to the various people who want one?<br>
><br>
> Depends on customs handling I think.<br>
<br>
</div> yes. what that means is that someone in Europe has to be paid money<br>
in advance by all 11 (12?) people, in order to pay for *their* customs<br>
charges.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<br>
> Shipping from China seems to be quite cheap compared to shipping within<br>
> europe,<br>
<br>
> but each import customs processing if handled by a customs agent<br>
> adds a quite significant processing fee.<br>
<br>
</div>which in the case of parcelforce you can go along to the post office,<br>
demand the parcel, refuse to pay the "handling" charge on the grounds<br>
that the contract for delivery was between them and the person who<br>
paid for shipping.<br>
<br>
if they insist on payment - which they should not - then you ask them<br>
to put it into writing that they are refusing to honour a contract<br>
which has nothing to do with you.<br>
<br>
but you MUST object to the "handling" charge. if you do not, then<br>
you have agreed to their contract (which has absolutely nothing to do<br>
with the "delivery" contract) and MUST pay the "handling" charge.<br>
<br>
having objected, they will then send you a demand and an invoice.<br>
you then object again IN WRITING, pointing out that you wish to see<br>
the contract which was signed and agreed to by yourself (pointing out<br>
that such a contract does not exist).<br>
<br>
miraculously, the next time you phone to speak to them about it they<br>
will have no record of the existence of the invoice.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
l.<br>
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