From lkcl at lkcl.net Sat Jan 2 16:15:17 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 16:15:17 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] libre laptop PCB2 video, STM32F072 dual USB endpoint demo and explanation Message-ID: http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/laptop_15in/news/ did a quick video showing the disassembled chicony keyboard matrix working and generating USB-HID events at the same time as CDC-ACM (usb serial) responding. l. From lkcl at lkcl.net Sun Jan 3 14:16:09 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 14:16:09 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] libre 15.6in laptop 2 extra videos Message-ID: pre-assembly explanation and walk-through videos now available: http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/laptop_15in/news/ this is all prior to first power-up. i'm honestly slightly nervous about powering the boards up when they're wired together like this, because the slightest short-circuit or incorrect cable and it'll damage things. although i do have some revision 1.0 EOMA68-A20 CPU Cards left, i'd rather no more were damaged! still, i've tested them all individually - it should be fine. l. From lasich at gmail.com Sun Jan 3 14:44:15 2016 From: lasich at gmail.com (Hrvoje Lasic) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 15:44:15 +0100 Subject: [Arm-netbook] libre 15.6in laptop 2 extra videos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: good luck!!! On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > pre-assembly explanation and walk-through videos now available: > http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/laptop_15in/news/ > > this is all prior to first power-up. i'm honestly slightly nervous > about powering the boards up when they're wired together like this, > because the slightest short-circuit or incorrect cable and it'll > damage things. although i do have some revision 1.0 EOMA68-A20 CPU > Cards left, i'd rather no more were damaged! > > still, i've tested them all individually - it should be fine. > > l. > > _______________________________________________ > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook at lists.phcomp.co.uk > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to arm-netbook at files.phcomp.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lkcl at lkcl.net Sun Jan 3 14:53:07 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 14:53:07 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] libre 15.6in laptop 2 extra videos In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Hrvoje Lasic wrote: > good luck!!! shorted the usb-otg 5v rail accidentally already, have to power the CPU Card from VBUS instead... no matter, i have to replace the LTC4155 due to misrepresentation of its capabilities, with a bq24196 from TI anyway.... l. From lasich at gmail.com Sun Jan 3 16:28:57 2016 From: lasich at gmail.com (Hrvoje Lasic) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 17:28:57 +0100 Subject: [Arm-netbook] libre 15.6in laptop 2 extra videos In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: speaking new PCB, I found done Chinese company for pcb samples. price looks very ok to me. what do you think: http://www.pcbway.com/ On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Hrvoje Lasic wrote: > > good luck!!! > > shorted the usb-otg 5v rail accidentally already, have to power the > CPU Card from VBUS instead... no matter, i have to replace the LTC4155 > due to misrepresentation of its capabilities, with a bq24196 from TI > anyway.... > > l. > > _______________________________________________ > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook at lists.phcomp.co.uk > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to arm-netbook at files.phcomp.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lkcl at lkcl.net Sun Jan 3 17:28:46 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 17:28:46 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] libre 15.6in laptop 2 extra videos In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Hrvoje Lasic wrote: > speaking new PCB, I found done Chinese company for pcb samples. price looks > very ok to me. what do you think: > > http://www.pcbway.com/ that is extraordinarily cheap, very good. i also checked the cost that they'd be able to do EOMA68 boards at, and it's 60% of anything else i've previously been quoted: $361 instead of $600 for qty 5, and that's a 1.2mm PCB. a 1.6mm 110x90 2-layer PCB with 6-6 mill track/clearance and 0.25mm min drill size was $38 for qty 5 which is about 30% of what eurocircuits quote. bear in mind that you would still have to pay tax, duty, tax-on-tax, tax-on-duty and tax-on-tax-on-duty... oh, and shipping. and tax-on-shipping. and tax-on-duty-on-tax-on-shipping. all of which could well end up adding almost 80%+ to the cost. time-wise they look pretty fast, eurocircuits do a typical 7-day turnaround (these guys are 3), shipping from eurocircuits is often 2-3 days (and is only once a week for the 7-day production), so actually even though shipping would be with DHL international from china, you might actually end up getting it faster. weird, huh? :) l. From lkcl at lkcl.net Sun Jan 3 17:49:46 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 17:49:46 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 A20 Libre 15.6in Laptop prototype PCBs, first fully-functioning boot Message-ID: http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/laptop_15in/news/EOMA68_Libre_15.6in_Laptop_Prototype_PCBs_first_boot/ hardware all fully-functional, despite drawing too much power during the audio test. power is currently hard-wired to a temporary location that will be sorted out when PCB3 is replaced with a board that uses the TI bq24196 - a much better PMIC that is properly compliant with the USB-OTG Power Specification. this is really exciting as it will not be long before a fully-assembled prototype is up and running. l. From addw at phcomp.co.uk Mon Jan 4 10:14:41 2016 From: addw at phcomp.co.uk (Alain Williams) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 10:14:41 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 A20 Libre 15.6in Laptop prototype PCBs, first fully-functioning boot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20160104101441.GN15390@phcomp.co.uk> On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 05:49:46PM +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/laptop_15in/news/EOMA68_Libre_15.6in_Laptop_Prototype_PCBs_first_boot/ > > hardware all fully-functional, despite drawing too much power during > the audio test. power is currently hard-wired to a temporary location > that will be sorted out when PCB3 is replaced with a board that uses > the TI bq24196 - a much better PMIC that is properly compliant with > the USB-OTG Power Specification. > > this is really exciting as it will not be long before a > fully-assembled prototype is up and running. Brilliant! Well done. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 http://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: http://www.phcomp.co.uk/contact.php #include From lkcl at lkcl.net Mon Jan 4 14:25:07 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 14:25:07 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 A20 Libre 15.6in Laptop prototype PCBs, first fully-functioning boot In-Reply-To: <20160104101441.GN15390@phcomp.co.uk> References: <20160104101441.GN15390@phcomp.co.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Alain Williams wrote: >> this is really exciting as it will not be long before a >> fully-assembled prototype is up and running. > > Brilliant! Well done. thx alain. i'm looking forward to being able to clear the living room of components. it's amazing the huge spread (two rooms turned into workshops) kinda being like a reverse-big-bang implosion, all these bits get sucked into one piece :) l. From lkcl at lkcl.net Tue Jan 5 14:48:19 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 14:48:19 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68-jz4775 Message-ID: Jan 5 14:46:28 bigmac kernel: [1081446.769734] usb 1-2: new high-speed USB device number 86 using xhci_hcd Jan 5 14:46:28 bigmac kernel: [1081446.898689] usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=a108, idProduct=4775 Jan 5 14:46:28 bigmac kernel: [1081446.898693] usb 1-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 Jan 5 14:46:28 bigmac kernel: [1081446.898694] usb 1-2: Product: JZ4775 USB Boot Device Jan 5 14:46:28 bigmac kernel: [1081446.898696] usb 1-2: Manufacturer: Ingenic # lsusb Bus 001 Device 086: ID a108:4775 yippeee, it didn't blow up :) PMIC voltages are good. 1.2, 1.5, 1.8, 2.5, 3.3. whew.... From lkcl at lkcl.net Tue Jan 5 20:21:57 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 20:21:57 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68-jz4775 first usb-loader hello-world success Message-ID: http://rhombus-tech.net/ingenic/jz4775/news/ yippeee! the jz4775 cpu card didn't blow up, instead it announced itself on the usb bus, and i was able to modify a CI120 usbloader i found, to upload a UART0-based "hello world" program. next phase would be to initialise the DDR3 RAM, then compile and upload u-boot into DDR3 RAM and execute it. all very exciting From paul at boddie.org.uk Tue Jan 5 22:54:09 2016 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 23:54:09 +0100 Subject: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68-jz4775 first usb-loader hello-world success In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201601052354.09671.paul@boddie.org.uk> On Tuesday 5. January 2016 21.21.57 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > http://rhombus-tech.net/ingenic/jz4775/news/ > > yippeee! the jz4775 cpu card didn't blow up, instead it announced > itself on the usb bus, and i was able to modify a CI120 usbloader i > found, to upload a UART0-based "hello world" program. next phase > would be to initialise the DDR3 RAM, then compile and upload u-boot > into DDR3 RAM and execute it. > > all very exciting Very encouraging! The CI20 bare-metal stuff is rather educational and it helps to explain various things that you can see in other code related to the Ingenic SoCs. It'll be interesting to see whether the jz4775 is close enough to the other SoCs for various initialisation things to work straight away with limited reconfiguration, perhaps even things like the framebuffer. Paul From lkcl at lkcl.net Wed Jan 6 01:15:16 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 01:15:16 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68-jz4775 first usb-loader hello-world success In-Reply-To: <201601052354.09671.paul@boddie.org.uk> References: <201601052354.09671.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Paul Boddie wrote: > On Tuesday 5. January 2016 21.21.57 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> http://rhombus-tech.net/ingenic/jz4775/news/ >> >> yippeee! the jz4775 cpu card didn't blow up, instead it announced >> itself on the usb bus, and i was able to modify a CI120 usbloader i >> found, to upload a UART0-based "hello world" program. next phase >> would be to initialise the DDR3 RAM, then compile and upload u-boot >> into DDR3 RAM and execute it. >> >> all very exciting > > Very encouraging! The CI20 bare-metal stuff is rather educational and it helps > to explain various things that you can see in other code related to the > Ingenic SoCs. yeah, it's kinda cool. slightly scarily low-level and more like the ST devkit, but very cool. > It'll be interesting to see whether the jz4775 is close enough to the other > SoCs for various initialisation things to work straight away with limited > reconfiguration, perhaps even things like the framebuffer. first hardware difference is that the clock i'm running the eoma68-jz4775 board off of is 24mhz not 48. i've managed to compile ingenic's jz4775 version of u-boot 1.1.6, i'll be putting that onto an sd card tomorrow and changing the boot selection to see if it recognises booting from MMC0. that will help confirm a heck of a lot of bits of hardware. l. From lkcl at lkcl.net Fri Jan 15 13:26:41 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 13:26:41 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] laptop casework, jz4775 cpu card, fosdem 2016 Message-ID: hi folks, right. i've moved on to re-printing the 3d casework of the laptop, most of that will be in higher-temperature ABS. i'm about 50% the way through that, so another 2-3 days and i'll have an assembled prototype. some bamboo 1.5mm plywood panels are arriving from a U.S. supplier (the only one in the world that sells online 1.5mm bamboo!) are arriving shortly. the jz4775 cpu card, it turns out that digikey sent the wrong PMIC. bizarre story: the ACT8600-QJ162-T became popular in the past few months because of a smartwatch that was developed in china using the ingenic jz4775 reference design. so the formerly popular ACT8600-QJ601-T suddenly became UNpopular, leaving the world's last remaining supplier as being digikey. so, that's a china-made PMIC, which got shipped to the U.S. (customs-charge), got shipped back to china (customs-charges), then provided by the agent to the factory, then the factory put it on the PCB, then they sent that to me (customs charges)... and then it turns out to be the wrong f*****g IC. naturally it took a whole lot of shouting at digikey to get them to do a full audit of the stock of ACT8600-QJ601-T PMICs, but i've placed an order for replacements - to be sent directly to me - and will be putting those on when they arrive. also, only 1 out of the 6 PCBs happened to _not_ have solder-bridges under the DDR3 RAM ICs, so i've ordered some replacement DDR3 RAM and will be having a go at putting on 78-pin BGAs with the IRDA solder station. it'll be fun to try. ok.... correction: it'll be fun to succeed. also even though it's short notice i'm looking to go to fosdem 2016 because i happen to be in den haag at the moment, it's only a train ride to brussels after all. i'll be bringing along the completed laptop prototype if anybody would like to see it. l. --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 From paul at boddie.org.uk Fri Jan 15 14:02:39 2016 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:02:39 +0100 Subject: [Arm-netbook] laptop casework, jz4775 cpu card, fosdem 2016 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201601151502.39724.paul@boddie.org.uk> On Friday 15. January 2016 14.26.41 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > naturally it took a whole lot of shouting at digikey to get them to do > a full audit of the stock of ACT8600-QJ601-T PMICs, but i've placed an > order for replacements - to be sent directly to me - and will be > putting those on when they arrive. also, only 1 out of the 6 PCBs > happened to _not_ have solder-bridges under the DDR3 RAM ICs, so i've > ordered some replacement DDR3 RAM and will be having a go at putting > on 78-pin BGAs with the IRDA solder station. it'll be fun to try. > ok.... correction: it'll be fun to succeed. So, was it Digikey that mixed up the parts or the factory that put the wrong IC on the board? As for the RAM, I guess that it made for the "bring up" process, as described in that bare-metal Ingenic work, to be slightly more exciting than it should have been. When you're probably only somewhat confident that the code will do the trick, I guess it's frustrating to have defective hardware involved as well. Anyway, good luck with the printing and soldering! Paul From lkcl at lkcl.net Fri Jan 15 14:23:16 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 14:23:16 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] laptop casework, jz4775 cpu card, fosdem 2016 In-Reply-To: <201601151502.39724.paul@boddie.org.uk> References: <201601151502.39724.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Paul Boddie wrote: > On Friday 15. January 2016 14.26.41 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> >> naturally it took a whole lot of shouting at digikey to get them to do >> a full audit of the stock of ACT8600-QJ601-T PMICs, but i've placed an >> order for replacements - to be sent directly to me - and will be >> putting those on when they arrive. also, only 1 out of the 6 PCBs >> happened to _not_ have solder-bridges under the DDR3 RAM ICs, so i've >> ordered some replacement DDR3 RAM and will be having a go at putting >> on 78-pin BGAs with the IRDA solder station. it'll be fun to try. >> ok.... correction: it'll be fun to succeed. > > So, was it Digikey that mixed up the parts or the factory that put the wrong > IC on the board? digikey. they just sent - a second time - the exact same wrong part, after i specifically advised them on the process by which they could verify what the part was. > As for the RAM, I guess that it made for the "bring up" process, as described > in that bare-metal Ingenic work, to be slightly more exciting than it should > have been. yyyyeah.... but luckily there's debug information printed in the u-boot SPL section that allowed a diagnosis. > When you're probably only somewhat confident that the code will do > the trick, I guess it's frustrating to have defective hardware involved as > well. it's why the "reduce it to one and only one change" is so absolutely critical. > Anyway, good luck with the printing and soldering! thanks... :) l. From lkcl at lkcl.net Sun Jan 17 23:45:52 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 23:45:52 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] libre laptop 3d print run 90% done Message-ID: holy cow there are *twenty five* separate parts in the laptop's casework. that's just nuts. if someone had said to me, "yeah you're gonna be making a 3d printed laptop, you'll need to do it in 25 separate parts" i would have said, "naah, you're having a laugh - surely it doesn't have to be that complex" which in the past has been my cue to run like hell from any project whenever someone uses the phrase "surely it doesn't neeeeeed to be as complex as alll thaaaat"... :) anyway i'm nearly done - i just have the touchpanel holder to redo, and the battery, pcb1 and keyboard tray supports that run off of it. the parts are all trimmed / adjusted (some details in the join points are just too small to be able to 3d-print accurately with filament), so i should be able to begin assembly in a day or so. fuuun. l. --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 From maillist_arm-netbook at aross.me Mon Jan 18 02:38:18 2016 From: maillist_arm-netbook at aross.me (Alexander .S.T. Ross) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 02:38:18 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] libre laptop 3d print run 90% done In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <569C501A.90808@aross.me> Looking forward to seeing how this turns out. I’ve been considering having a go at printing it my self, at a hacker space... I see how you get on. For whats i be letting my self in for ;) was this answered somewhere prev?: For the crowd fund. Will all the laptops be home printed and trimmed or is there, a mass printing operation that’s done differently from a home printing? Hows it going to be done? thanks again for the updates. ive been reading them! :D From lkcl at lkcl.net Mon Jan 18 02:54:52 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 02:54:52 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] libre laptop 3d print run 90% done In-Reply-To: <569C501A.90808@aross.me> References: <569C501A.90808@aross.me> Message-ID: --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 2:38 AM, Alexander .S.T. Ross wrote: > Looking forward to seeing how this turns out. > > I’ve been considering having a go at printing it my self, at a hacker > space... I see how you get on. For whats i be letting my self in for ;) you'll need about... 10 metres of ABS @ 3.0mm and about 15 metres of PLAY @ 3.0mm. if using 1.75mm adjust accordingly. > was this answered somewhere prev?: > For the crowd fund. Will all the laptops be home printed and trimmed or > is there, a mass printing operation that’s done differently from a home > printing? Hows it going to be done? don't know yet. i'm certainly not going to be doing 250-1000 sets of 3D-printed parts on a single mendel90, i have better things to do than "explore that space" as the zen buddhists like to put it. last time i checked there exist online networked 3d printing websites in china that offer massive discounts due to huge bulk-purchasing of the raw materials. > thanks again for the updates. ive been reading them! :D :) From hozer at hozed.org Mon Jan 18 20:24:56 2016 From: hozer at hozed.org (Troy Benjegerdes) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 14:24:56 -0600 Subject: [Arm-netbook] libre laptop 3d print run 90% done In-Reply-To: References: <569C501A.90808@aross.me> Message-ID: <20160118202456.GF10881@nl.grid.coop> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 02:54:52AM +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 > > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 2:38 AM, Alexander .S.T. Ross > wrote: > > Looking forward to seeing how this turns out. > > > > I’ve been considering having a go at printing it my self, at a hacker > > space... I see how you get on. For whats i be letting my self in for ;) > > you'll need about... 10 metres of ABS @ 3.0mm and about 15 metres of > PLAY @ 3.0mm. if using 1.75mm adjust accordingly. > What would you need to make it entirely out of PLA? I would buy a truckload of PLA from the Ingeo plant in Nebraska if I can start making laptops from corn... -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Troy Benjegerdes 'da hozer' hozer at hozed.org 7 elements earth::water::air::fire::mind::spirit::soul grid.coop Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel, nor try buy a hacker who makes money by the megahash From lkcl at lkcl.net Mon Jan 18 21:00:38 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 21:00:38 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] libre laptop 3d print run 90% done In-Reply-To: <20160118202456.GF10881@nl.grid.coop> References: <569C501A.90808@aross.me> <20160118202456.GF10881@nl.grid.coop> Message-ID: --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Troy Benjegerdes wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 02:54:52AM +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> --- >> crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 2:38 AM, Alexander .S.T. Ross >> wrote: >> > Looking forward to seeing how this turns out. >> > >> > I’ve been considering having a go at printing it my self, at a hacker >> > space... I see how you get on. For whats i be letting my self in for ;) >> >> you'll need about... 10 metres of ABS @ 3.0mm and about 15 metres of >> PLAY @ 3.0mm. if using 1.75mm adjust accordingly. >> > > What would you need to make it entirely out of PLA? high-temperature PLA, such as this: http://www.proto-pasta.com/pages/high-temp-pla the reason is, as i discovered by leaving the first prototype in direct sunlight, that the standard temperature PLA will melt. that means a number of things: (1) the screen left and right edges bend (2) the screen hinge parts start to deform (3) the friction-hinge softens enough (it's under quite a lot of pressure) so that it deforms and no longer does its job (4) the base back part, which has a circular tube that the friction hinge is in, will crack. so there is a lot that goes wrong just by having the temperature reach the glass point (60C) of standard temperature PLA. high-temperature PLA such as that made by proto-pasta is crystalline and has a glass point around 85C. > I would buy a truckload of PLA from the Ingeo plant in Nebraska if > I can start making laptops from corn... cool! From lkcl at lkcl.net Tue Jan 19 16:31:43 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 16:31:43 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] floor covered in bits of plastic and circuit boards... Message-ID: http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/laptop_15in/news/EOMA68_Libre_15.6in_Laptop_parts_pre_assembly/ :) --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 From lkcl at lkcl.net Wed Jan 20 16:31:00 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 16:31:00 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 laptop partially assembled Message-ID: http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/laptop_15in/news/EOMA68_Libre_15.6in_Laptop_partially_assembled/ lots to get fixed for another iteration... --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 From lkcl at lkcl.net Mon Jan 25 17:39:05 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:39:05 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] fosdem2016 Message-ID: well um i'm here.. an entire week early :) long story, but having booked the train tickets and hostel, nobody actually told me i was on the wrong day because of two separate and unrelated pieces of confusion / misprints! i decided rather than go back home to simply stay a week, having brought everything - soldering-iron, ruler, pliers, scissors, laptop, the works - with me all this way. 15kg suit-holding bag on wheels.... and in my infinite wisdom i decided that it would be an interesting experience to come to belgium on skates. with a 15kg wheeled bag. so, anyway, i'll be volunteering for setup on the friday, i have the laptop to demo, am registered for a lightning talk on saturday morning, this might change if there's a full hour slot available (i'm on short-notice standby). it'll be fun. the http://2go4.be is pretty good, the no 71 bus goes straight to ULB, there's a walk each end of about 250 metres... am enjoying the accidental circumstances... l. --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 From wookey at wookware.org Mon Jan 25 17:52:37 2016 From: wookey at wookware.org (Wookey) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:52:37 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] fosdem2016 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20160125175237.GO29847@mail.wookware.org> +++ Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton [2016-01-25 17:39 +0000]: > well um i'm here.. an entire week early :) > it'll be fun. the http://2go4.be is pretty good, the no 71 bus goes > straight to ULB, there's a walk each end of about 250 metres... am > enjoying the accidental circumstances... Heh, A whole week early in person, but didn't manage to book a proper talk slot in advance (or did you just not quite make the cut?) Very 'LKCL' :-) See you next week; I look forward to a play. Are you going to be set up on a stand/corner somewhere so we have a fighting chance of finding you in the madness that is FOSDEM? Wookey -- Principal hats: Linaro, Debian, Wookware, ARM http://wookware.org/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From lkcl at lkcl.net Mon Jan 25 18:12:38 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:12:38 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] fosdem2016 In-Reply-To: <20160125175237.GO29847@mail.wookware.org> References: <20160125175237.GO29847@mail.wookware.org> Message-ID: --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Wookey wrote: > +++ Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton [2016-01-25 17:39 +0000]: >> well um i'm here.. an entire week early :) > >> it'll be fun. the http://2go4.be is pretty good, the no 71 bus goes >> straight to ULB, there's a walk each end of about 250 metres... am >> enjoying the accidental circumstances... > > Heh, A whole week early in person, but didn't manage to book a proper > talk slot in advance (or did you just not quite make the cut?) Very > 'LKCL' :-) :) i didn't apply in advance because i didn't know how far along i'd be with the laptop. i didn't want to just bring a 3D design on-screen plus some PCBs: first assembly i literally only managed to complete 6 days ago, so that was when i contacted alasdair. i'm on standby if there's a free slot, but it will be short-notice: i'll post on-list and the arm-netbooks freenode irc > See you next week; I look forward to a play. Are you going to be set > up on a stand/corner somewhere so we have a fighting chance of finding > you in the madness that is FOSDEM? well the advantage of being here early is that i'm planning - if i understand things well enough to know if this is even possible (first time ever to fosdem) - to set up early on the "open hardware laptops" stand, plus, also, i want to speak to the people on the "3d printers" stand to ask them if they'd like to print out some of the laptop parts, on the basis that it'd be cool for both anyone demo'ing 3d printers and also for the libre laptop project. so i'll be at one or other of those stands. i'm using the time here at http://2go4.be to refine some of the parts, as this is the first time that PCBs have been inside the casework, there is some quite obvious strain in places i could not have forseen without actually having actual PCBs with fully-populated components. that, and ABS does have quite different characteristics from PLA. other than that, i'll post here (and on IRC) if there's any changes. if anyone has any suggestions (for venues / meeting-times) do say so. l. From lkcl at lkcl.net Mon Jan 25 18:26:34 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:26:34 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] fosdem2016 In-Reply-To: References: <20160125175237.GO29847@mail.wookware.org> Message-ID: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Wookey wrote: >> Heh, A whole week early in person, but didn't manage to book a proper >> talk slot in advance (or did you just not quite make the cut?) Very >> 'LKCL' :-) > > :) i seem to be learning that some things - in real-life - just can't be "iterated-until-success" like software... From lkcl at lkcl.net Tue Jan 26 09:50:10 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 09:50:10 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] fosdem2016 In-Reply-To: <20160125175237.GO29847@mail.wookware.org> References: <20160125175237.GO29847@mail.wookware.org> Message-ID: wookey do you know if anyone from the arm64 vero team are going to be in brussels? it would be nice to be able to say "hello this is a low-power laptop blah blah... and if you want a higher-end one you want to talk to _these_ people right here..." - i'll ask the powerpc-laptop people as well --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 From lkcl at lkcl.net Thu Jan 28 14:42:47 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 14:42:47 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] liliputing article Message-ID: http://liliputing.com/2016/01/eoma68-libre-laptop-features-upgradeable-cpu-card.html nice to see! --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 From lkcl at lkcl.net Fri Jan 29 17:37:25 2016 From: lkcl at lkcl.net (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 17:37:25 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] podcast interview with liliptuting Message-ID: http://liliputing.com/2016/01/interview-with-eoma68-libre-laptop-developer-luke-kenneth-casson-leighton.html --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 From paul at boddie.org.uk Fri Jan 29 21:28:18 2016 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 22:28:18 +0100 Subject: [Arm-netbook] podcast interview with liliptuting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201601292228.19468.paul@boddie.org.uk> On Friday 29. January 2016 18.37.25 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > http://liliputing.com/2016/01/interview-with-eoma68-libre-laptop-developer- > luke-kenneth-casson-leighton.html A nice interview, albeit with rather different volume levels for the interviewer and interviewee, making it a bit hard to listen to. And we get to learn who the mystery sponsor is, too. :-) Paul From maillist_arm-netbook at aross.me Fri Jan 29 22:51:16 2016 From: maillist_arm-netbook at aross.me (Alexander .S.T. Ross) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 22:51:16 +0000 Subject: [Arm-netbook] podcast interview with liliptuting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56ABECE4.10205@aross.me> Brill, really looking forward to this! :DD Answered some questions i had. Surprising to hear thinkpenguin is the sponsor. It's great that they are :). so the world economy is doomed, guess i should be buying in an 10x quantity of bits from china before import prices is going to go 5x.... didnt know that... :|