[Arm-netbook] Mele/A10 Kernel

Peter Steenbergen p.steenbergen at j1nx.nl
Tue May 1 16:22:37 BST 2012


You should add this to the wiki on the frontpage! (Insh'allah)

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:08 PM, lkcl luke <luke.leighton at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Henrik Nordström
> <henrik at henriknordstrom.net> wrote:
> > tis 2012-05-01 klockan 13:59 +0100 skrev lkcl luke:
> >
> >>  in other words, do consider using the 2.6.{whatever} kernel - or
> >> whatever actually works, get everything working, and _then_ replace
> >> one and *ONLY* one component at a time.
> >
> > Not sure what you mean by this. Replace what components with what?
>
>  for example, i am advising paul to consider - nothing more than
> *consider* - using the 2.6.36 kernel initially, and the version of
> u-boot that is known to work, and downloading pre-existing armhf
> debian packages known to be working, proving that it all works.... AND
> THEN AND ONLY THEN trying the 3.0 or 3.3 kernel, and THEN AND ONLY
> THEN trying a new version of u-boot, and THEN AND ONLY THEN trying
> some alternative package compilations, tricks, combinations and so on.
>
>  in other words, start from a known easy-to-achieve but above-all
> absolute paramount and ultra-high-priority *working* system,
> regardless of whether it is the required actual ultimate goal, and
> then change one and ONLY one component or item at a time.
>
>  and - most importantly - RELEASE IT!  make it publicly available!
> preferably as you're actually going along, rather than "oh i'll
> release it when it's ready" (*1)
>
>  then, if the "component" selected - the change required - turns out
> to not work, or is too much to do, then the action that can be taken
> is:
>
> a) give up.  this is not an unreasonable option.  it's *not* a failure
> (*2).  at least, however, someone else can take over because you
> released everything publicly.
>
> b) ask for help.  this again is not an unreasonable option: someone
> else might have more expertise than you.  it is NOT a failure or a
> threat to your ego if you ask for help.
>
> c) try a smaller incremental step.  this again is perfectly
> reasonable: yes you couldn't get xyz working but so what - if you try
> just x or just y or just z or even w you might get a little bit
> further.
>
> is that clearer?
>
> l.
>
> (*1) this attitude absolutely drives me nuts: it means *you* want "all
> the glory", or your ego is in the way - fear of criticism - which is
> just as bad.  don't do it!  work publicly, and openly invite others to
> collaborate with you!
>
> (*2) however if you didn't release everything publicly, you just
> pissed everyone off by forcing them to duplicate all the effort that
> you _did_ go to.
>
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